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Dieter Zetsche, head of the Mercedes-Benz unit of Daimler AG, revealed the controversial ad during a presentation Tuesday at the International Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
Updated at 8:30 p.m. ET: Daimler AG apologized Thursday for using an image of Marxist revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara during a promotional presentation for Mercedes-Benz cars.
The image briefly appeared Tuesday during a presentation by Dieter Zetsche, head of Daimler's Mercedes unit, at the International Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. It reproduced a famous Alberto Korda photo of Guevara, the Argentine communist who spearheaded the revolution that brought Fidel Castro to power in Cuba. The photo became a symbol of communist revolutionary movements during the 1960s and '70s.
But in place of the star that adorns Guevara's beret in the original, Mercedes affixed its corporate logo.
Activists reacted with horror to the appropriation of Guevara, whom many political conservatives and Cuban-Americans consider a mass murderer who helped subjugate Cuba.
"Mercedes-Benz Uses Communist Madman Che Guevara to Sell Luxury Cars," said the headline on a blog post from the Heritage Foundation, a prominent conservative political organization in Washington.
"Che Guevara, not to put too fine a point on it, was a psychopath whose sadistic lust for blood was not easily quenched. He killed for pleasure," said the post, written by Heritage Vice President Mike Gonzalez.
In a statement Thursday to msnbc.com, Daimler said the image was just "one of many images and videos in the presentation," which it said was intended to represent "the revolution in automobility enabled by new technologies, in particular those associated with connectivity."
"Daimler was not condoning the life or actions of this historical figure or the political philosophy he espoused," the company said, adding: "We sincerely apologize to those who took offense."
Daimler's statement was welcomed by Ernesto Suarez, who organized an online petition calling for Mercedes-Benz to apologize for using the image of a man the petition called "a racist, homophobic, anti-semitic and tyrannical killer who admitted in his own writing to his endless blood thirst."
"I'm very satisfied with the reaction from Mercedes-Benz," Suarez, a Cuban-American who lives in Kansas City, Mo., told msnbc.com Thursday evening. "I believe that they have done the right thing.
"The victory, if there is one, is not mine, but belongs to the descendants of [Guevara's] victims [and] the survivors, to common sense and to civility," he said.
Here's Daimler's full statement to msnbc.com:
In his keynote speech at CES, Dr. Zetsche addressed the revolution in automobility enabled by new technologies, in particular those associated with connectivity. To illustrate this point, the company briefly used a photo of revolutionary Che Guevara (it was one of many images and videos in the presentation). Daimler was not condoning the life or actions of this historical figure or the political philosophy he espoused. We sincerely apologize to those who took offense.
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"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine"
Que viva El Che!
Ok, I think Mercedes went completely over the line here.
Socialism: yes, but Communism: no.
Mercedes, one of the companies that supported the Fascists now running ads featuring Communists.
(Fascism and Communism are at opposite ends of the eco-poli spectrum)
Wow, who could have ever seen that coming.
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@ Marlen. Are you kidding me? If you are a revolutionary at all you'll realize that Che wasn't all left-wing propaganda made him out to be.
He not only brutally slaugthered women and children, but also the farmers and the downtrodden he supposedly fought so hard to protect. He murdered revoluationaries also. He wiped out an anarchist collective bent on not letting a Marxist totalitarian regime into Cuba; and also killed many socialists.
Although Che may have started off with some good ideas; later in life he proved his sociopathy not only to his enemies, but to those he wanted to protect in his youth.
So happy to see this as the top comment. Soon, this page will be filled with misinformed and ignorant tripe about the ills of Marxism and how horrible Cuba is, written by Americans that couldn't find it on a map.
La Revolucion is far better than America's puppet Batista. The reason Americans have been taught to hate Castro and Guevara is due to the bitterness the rich still feel that their resort island was taken away and given back to the people of Cuba.
The island doesn't belong to the people Alan. Get a clue.
Very interesting comments you have made. Can you direct me to your sources of information so that I may become better informed on these comments you have posted.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide! I like to gather information from all perspectives available!
Alan - Or it could be due to the fact that while Che may have had a few right ideas it doesn't change the fact that he was a murderous thug. The ridiculous over-simplification of this guy as some sort of altruistic ideologue who just wanted to help the downtrodden is pathetic. He went over the line as much as the animals he was fighting. Stop blowing sunshine up his dead butt.
Pugh,
The only ignorant, uninformed person on this board is you. Based on your post, being able to find Cuba on a map is about the only thing you know about Cuba's history.
The outrage stems not from Che's politics, but from his active role as a dictator and mass murderer after he took power in Cuba. Foremost among the numerous atrocities Che brought upon the Cuban population were the public mass executions he routinely held at the stadium in Havana. Including the one in which he took the life of my grandfather and his two brothers. Doctors and land owners whose only crime was the ownership of a sugar cane plantation he wanted.
The problem becomes that uneducated people like you allow ignorance and in this case corporate greed to pervert history. Che was a murderer on par with Hitler and Stalin and you will excuse people if they don't want to see his face plastered on a car ad.
Dave
@UnitedStates1776 Actually Communism and Fascism are not on "opposite ends of the eco-poli spectrum". Both were authoritarian systems of government founded on a collectivist theory advocating the use of force to achieve their social and political aims. The distinction is merely that they identified with different social groups. The Communists wanted big government to control everything for the benefit of the so called "working class" while the fascists wanted big government to control everything for the benefit of different social groups. In Spain the fascists believed themselves to be supporting the collective of "the Church" or "those who opposed Communism". In Italy, it was a similar collectivist grouping, but disbelieving the existence of so called Marxist class structure. The fascist ideology sought to promote "a proletarian national culture and claim[ed] that its goal of nationalizing society levels social classes and emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into proletarian national culture" Griffin, Roger. The Nature of Fascism (New York: St. Martins Press, 1991) pp. 222–223.
Both Fascism and Communism were a rejection of the freedom philosophy of traditional American conservatism and European classical liberalism, currently emodied by, I suppose, American libertarians.
@UnitedStates1776 Actually Communism and Fascism are not on "opposite ends of the eco-poli spectrum". Both were authoritarian systems of government founded on a collectivist theory advocating the use of force to achieve their social and political aims. The distinction is merely that they identified with different social groups. The Communists wanted big government to control everything for the benefit of the so called "working class" while the fascists wanted big government to control everything for the benefit of different social groups. In Spain the fascists believed themselves to be supporting the collective of "the Church" or "those who opposed Communism". In Italy, it was a similar collectivist grouping, but disbelieving the existence of so called Marxist class structure. The fascist ideology sought to promote "a proletarian national culture and claim[ed] that its goal of nationalizing society levels social classes and emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into proletarian national culture" Griffin, Roger. The Nature of Fascism (New York: St. Martins Press, 1991) pp. 222–223.
Both Fascism and Communism were a rejection of the freedom philosophy of traditional American conservatism and European classical liberalism, currently emodied by, I suppose, American libertarians.
First off quoting a mass murder how idiotic.
second for Mr or Mrs UnitedStates1776
Socialism YES Communism No NO TO BOTH
Hitler was a socialist do you know that?
Socialism is not some grand scheme where the government takes care of everyone and everyone gets equal shares.
Socialism is where the government ends up committing mass murder after taking control of every aspect of people's lives. One of the first things that is surpressed under socialism is freedom of speech this happens because the government (no matter who is in charge) becomes unable to meet the needs of all of it's citizens and the only response to the growing dissatisfaction is to silent the masses. People then begin to demonstrate and that is when people begin "dissappearing".
Please educate yourselves with history especially the history of the early 2oth century before you say things like "YEA SOCIALISM."
What a stupid move to use such a controversial figure. How could they have not seen this coming? Some firings are sorely needed at Mercedes' PR department.
Study Che's life and one can't help but admire him. Of course, capitalism deplores him because of his determination to help the poor and oppressed. Americans don't think but listen to the propaganda from their leaders who are beholden to the oligarchs.
You socialist dimwits are hilarious. You can't bash America enough but the fact of the matter is the "poor" here live like kings compared to the real poor in communist hell holes. Maybe YOU are the ones who need to do some studying about reality, and take a break from the far left propaganda.
I thought the image was metaphorically appropriate; FU-CK the Cuban activists. How many Mercedes Benz vehicles do they buy anyway?
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People who say "Fascism and communism" are at opposite ends of the spectrum are clueless about Fascism.
Real fascism is lost upon a bunch of sniveling whiners who like to scream "Fascism" at things they don't like in regards to business. Nazi Germany's Fascist government very much controlled production and distribution of goods.
Anarchy and communism is more or less opposite ends of the spectrum. No control of anything vs. control of everything. Fascism is it's own beast.
Marlen - you've got to be kidding - do some research on your own. Pugh, if you don't like how America is, you are free to leave, please go to Cuba and enjoy the paradise.
If they want to use a picture of a revolution..then use George Washington or Luke Skywalker or something. ;)
Hollywood portrait this butcher in their movie with Banderas has a fighter for the poor. Che Guevara was an Argentinian marxist revolucionary and guerrilla leader, enemy of the United States, enemy of the democracy, responsable along with Fidel Castro for the dead of thousands of Cubans and the destruction of Cuba. The "fighter for the poor" is responvable along with the Castro Brothers for the unbelievable level of poverty proper of communist regime. We want Cuba free from the communist dictator. Che Guevara is the idol for the marxist and communist of this country. Shame on the German Company.
Alan here's one of those comments that you couldn't wait to see. You're so off base it's sickening. Che personally killed, as in; HE ACTUALLY DID THE BRUTAL KILLING, more people than Hitler. Wake up you jack ass. Yeah, it's because the rich didn't want to lose the resort of Cube. That's possibly the most ignorant statement I've seen on this site (and there are a bunch of them). You're a wanna' be cool guy wearing your little che shirt and thinking that you stand for some dignified revolution. Why don't read up on someone and not just something they wrote but things they actually did before you take a stand for them. Some people just need a little slap...in the face...with a chair. Go crawl back in your den, smoke a medicinal fatty and do what you do best....NOTHING.
Fascism and communism are on the same side, to be honest. It took FDR and the wartime press to find - or create - a distinction between the two, so we would have a rationale for siding with Stalin to beat Hitler.
Hitler exercised almost total state direction of privately-owned companies to dictate what would be made, when and how much. Hello, Ferry Porsche and Volkswagen! Hello, Krupp Steel Works (and to one of its major stockholders, Joe Kennedy, who tried to persuade FDR to stay neutral so he could make a fortune war-profiteering).
Alan Pugh, seriously? You look to me like an occupy wall street, EMO type, nonetheless your clueless! My wife is Cuban American she was never wealthy in Cuba in fact she lived there through the seventies and eighties and she can tell you to your face if you would like, how full of sht you are, here are a few things she had to do while growing up, you should remember these things every time your sitting on your couch with your buddies praising the Cuban Government;
Forced as a child to participate every summer in labor camps to pick coffee beans or any other crop for the government, no excuses, BTW you live there no mommy and daddy!
Forced everytime Castro has a speech he wants to deliver, you are bused to the event and you must cheer and clap always, because you are being watched to make sure you are doing so!
In the eighties when Cubans stormed the Peruvian embassy in Cuba and demanded asylum in Peru which is what led to the Mariel boat lift, all the kids from schools were bused to the embassy to yell and spit at all the Cubans that were inside the embassy gates, forced to do so of course.
I can go on and on, but I'm tired!
This is what you are defending, of course this is how you wish it was here, but why try to emulate the same here when you have a place that is all ready like that just 90 miles away? Why not try living there with the regular people not in a tourist only place for a while like say a year, I would bet my life you would come back here lifting your pants putting on a belt, cutting and combing that ridiculous girlie haircut and singing Yankee doodle dandy for years!
Che Guevara is nothing different from the leader ofthe Revolutionary Peruvian group Shining Path , whose leader Abimael Guzman is in jail for the rest of his days, for be responsible for the death of thousand of peruvians "fighting for the poor". What kind of people can see with good eyes those butchers.
Maybe they can use pictures of Jacobo Arbenz or Salvador Allende for all you red, white and blue jingoistic types. By the way, thank you Cuban-Americans for continuing to vote against our middle-class' best economic interests just so that we can continue employing one of the stupidest "regime change" strategies of all time. Lots of actual Cubanos despise you (from Matanzas to Cienfuegos to Santiago de Cuba). Do you think they don't know you're waiting for the Castro brothers to die so that you can return to the island and put a McDonald's on every corner?
Well, Papa Joe hardly lost his fortune, FDR notwithstanding. Their relationship was a perfect example of keeping "your friends close and your enemies closer," much like Obama/Hillary Clinton today.
Note that one reason that Fidel sent "Comrade" Che off to export the revolution was that he didn't really want him in Cuba; he was too radical for even Fidel. I think that lots of people somehow mistake the narrator character from the musical play Evita (a brilliant invention, to be sure) for the actual historical figure.
I honestly thought that a lot of the outrage would be from Marxists who loathed the idea of their hero's beloved red star replaced with the three-pointed Mercedes logo one since in many minds that is the penultimate logo of Naziism, second only to the swastika itself.
I would like to thank Mercedes-Benz for its error. And it is an error, no doubt. But in this moronic connection between Che, a murdering thug and a coward to boot, and their automobiles, the firm has highlighted for us all the difference between various groups in the USA--conservative versus liberal, older versus younger, and so on. Many Americans are historically illiterate. Alan is a great example. Marlen could be his sidekick.
But many of us are also poitically and economically illiterate. For a perfect example of what our public school system has wrought look no further than 1776 above. What a discerning mind, huh? George Santanyana was right, and with people in power that 1776 supports we are doomed to repeat our past mistakes.
Can you imagine if instead of Che they used, say, Pol Pot, another in a long line of cheap despots who cowardly kill others because it gives them a thrill? Or Mao? Or Lenin? How did Che become so accepted given his entire pathetic history, of which the only good part is when he is killed in South America while begging for his useless life and crapping his pants. Yes, what a brave revolutionary he was. We should find the teachers of the above insane posters and slap the hell out of each of them.
@Victor-1304988
"...Hitler was a socialist do you know that?"
Please study an even tiny bit of history and a tiny bit of poli-sci. Hitler was not a socialist.
"So happy to see this as the top comment. Soon, this page will be filled with misinformed and ignorant tripe about the ills of Marxism and how horrible Cuba is, written by Americans that couldn't find it on a map. La Revolucion is far better than America's puppet Batista. The reason Americans have been taught to hate Castro and Guevara is due to the bitterness the rich still feel that their resort island was taken away and given back to the people of Cuba."
Alan. I am neither a conservative nor an uninformed American "that couldn't find it on a map". Generalize much? But your above quote is about the most ignorant thing I've read in a long time. I'm not a poser. Hablo español. He vivido en América Latina, y he viajado allí extensamente. I've got a degree in Spanish and have a huge love for all latin culture and history. That there is a lot of poverty in Latin America is without a doubt the truth. Che was a complex individual who in his young adult life recognized the disparities and became devoted to the cause of change.
Somewhere along the way his desire to change things for the better became perverted. The man he grew into being and the philosophy he espoused was in no way admirable or a symbol of positive revolution. If you truly believe it was, then you might actually want to take a few months and live in Cuba to see the results of Che's handiwork first hand.
The puppet regimes of Cuba were awful. No argument, but replacing them with wholesale slaughter, confiscation of all property, denial of simple rights like free speech, and 50 plus years of abject poverty for your average Cuban is hardly much better.
The Cuban revolutionaries were right that change needed to happen for their island nation, but the ideologies they introduced based on Marxist ideas made them mass murderers with Che pretty much in charge of carrying out the killings of thousands of fellow citizens. No ends EVER justify the means when it comes to large scale killing women and children.
In the case of Cuba..."the ends" aren't even justified. Not by any measurement that I know of? They have a high literacy rate I guess? But that hardly does them all much good as a population because no one is allowed to publish anything not endorsed by the state propaganda machine there. Look up how many writers, artists, and musicians are in jail in Cuba simply because they dared to do something that questioned the incompetence of their own system. Cuba has the highest poverty rate in the Western Hemisphere with the exception of Haiti. They can't grow enough food to feed their population as a collective, and until recently they wouldn't even allow citizens to grow/produce any extra food to help feed their families. Cuba...once the world's top producer of sugar cane...now they can't grow enough for their own island population.
I'm a political moderate who really believes in a mixed economic system. Capitalism IS efficient but can get out of hand quickly without the proper oversight. In a modern society, we do need safety net programs I believe. I've got no conservative ax to grind here. I'm just stating that however noble the revolution's original ideas and goals were...the only way you can seriously rate the marxist, revolutionary experiment of Cuba is with a big, fat FAIL. By economic standards, by historical standards, by human rights standards, etc. And you and anyone else who thinks differently is simply living in denial. Since the iconic symbol of Che has come to represent the revolution, so you can hardly be surprised when it recieves negative response. It is a well deserved negative response.
The fact that Mercedes is so clueless about the use of that symbol in the U.S. and the reaction they'd get is pretty astonishing as well. Maybe at the next CES they'll use a picture of Pol Pot or Franco?
Hitler was definately a socialist, and was the leader of the national-socialist party. Hitler used governmental policy to control the means of production--this is socialism. Sorry if you feel saddled with such evil if you support socialism, but Hitler is of a similar mindset regarding the economy.
Actually the first step in fascism, socialism and communism, is to disarm the general populace. That way when they tell you to "Sit down, Shut up, and Drink the Kool-aid" at gunpoint, you have no recourse.
Boris, I've studied history and especially Hitler's Germany. Look at the reality of what Hitler did, he was vbery much in line with the Progressive philosophy of the time and with the ideals of socialism. The German government controlled the means of production and increasingly the private lives of the German people. The big differences between Hitler and Stalin (or any other ruling socialist) is that Hitler got the negative publicity and that Hitler did not act overnight as it were but instead built up government control over time becasue he was always afraid that the military would act against him. So he always acted incrementally so that the military would not see any reason to act against him - plus he bribed the hell out of the military leaders.
@Ghengis
Bravo. You just perfectly demonstrated how to articulate a side of an argument and win that argument without taking personal jabs or name calling or showing frustration. I on the other hand have nearly mastered the art of taking personal jabs, name calling and showing massive frustration. Hey we could team up and be good cop bad cop:)
Anyway, good post...but you should've thrown in a "moron" just to drive it home:)
As was Stalin, and Mao - and a host of others. All had this nice "progressive" idea of forced collectivization. It resulted in the deaths of tens of millions of people.
What about all of the women and children killed through out South and Central America, East Timor Viet Nam and the Middle East due to US policies? Oh, thats right ....we did it or sat by and allowed it to happen to suit our corporate masters so it is OK.
I wonder who the marketing genius was that thought *that* was a good idea...
I think it's hilarious. Che was a self-absorbed, misguided Bozo and loser. I think the MB symbol on the beret is classic. What a fitting image to the iconic revolutionary so pumped up by those Marxists who had no clue what human dignity meant. Had Che been alive, he and his bud Fidel probably would have been tooling the streets of Havana in a Mercedes...
Alan Pugh made me laugh. Sorry, that whole post just reeked of brainwashing. It is always the extremists from any end of the spectrum that make no sense. You can be from the right, or the left, or up, or down. Turning off the brain means you can't be bothered considering someone else's point of view, even if you disagree with it. I can't make a retort against that self-destructive post. It does more damage to itself than anybody else could to it.
Boris: Nazi is a condensed version of Nationalist socialist. So yes, Hitler was a socialist.
Why are people getting collapsed just for being stupid, rather than abusive, rasicist, obscene, or off topic? Is it just that enough people click "No Value"? I could say that about a lot of posts, but don't in absence of actual racism, name calling, etc. Why are the moderators not letting the silly people hoist themselves from their own petard?
A unique variety of fascism, Socialist in nature but customized as every Gov't has been including our own capitalism which stated as an idea and has since been so customized by greed that it wouldn't be recognized by the founding fathers today.
Ghengis, props to you and I mean that. You responded in a professional, articulate and balanced way and for the most part, I actually agree with you. My original post was short, judgmental and overarching... it was not articulate and did nothing to draw a distinction between Che's early and later years. You are absolutely right, and though it isn't customary to do so on an internet forum, I yield to you.
While I believe in socialism versus your belief in capitalism (which delineates the difference in our opinions about confiscation of private property and other disagreements), you have a very real and fair grasp of the situation and presented it with more class than I did.
For the rest who say things like "fascism and communism aren't at the opposite ends," that fact isn't subjective... anyone with a political science degree knows that they are, indeed, opposite ends of the traditional political spectrum. There's more nuance there than you realize.
And finally, for the group that says socialism is a march down the path of murderous regimes and mass poverty, I would like you to research the Scandinavian region where much of the economy is nationalized, every single worker in each country is part of collective bargaining between the state and industry, and the social safety net ensures housing, food and medical care. Denmark, due to a very socialist-oriented economic model, is top five in nearly every possible category from health to education to outright morale. Soviet-style Communism is not the only form of leftist economics or governing.
Again, thank you Ghengis for your rational and classy rebuttal.
Genius. Let's use a well known, controversial figure from contemporary world history to sell our product. Since we're selling high-end, luxury automobiles, let's use an iconic symbol of the communist movement in Latin America.
I guess Che Guevera never thought to copyright his own name and image. Very short-sighted.
What's next? Stalin?
If college educated kids think that Stalin is the greatest thing since Timothy Leary - then yes Stalin is next.
This seems destined to piss of everyone, glorifying one who many on the right sees as a violent socialist/communist, and commodifying one who many on the left see as a symbol against the capitalist corporatiziation of everything. Smooth move Mercedes.
Longhair-- Turn on, tune in, and drop out into the Gulag?
I am saddened by the lack of historical knowledge demonstrated on this Vine...
Been reading more posts....
Che didn't hold the same beliefs as Castro. According to (studied) history that is why Che left Cuba and eventually died (was assassinated?), and why Che still has a following.
It wasn't just his death... it was, really, what he stood for.
Get over it.
ALL HAIL MARX AND LENNON
Forcing people into authoritarian collectivism? Violence and murder to cow people into submission if you objected and actually wanted your liberty? I can see why he's so popular with the ignorant.
Ah, the irony of Germans putting an icon of communism in their ad...
YA, He was Raul Castro's chief executioner after consolidation of power. He supposedly put at least 30,000 up against da wall. They used to show the movies of the executions in the ole days in school. Ernest Hemingway wrote one letter complaining that they were not executin political prisoners fast enough. Leftist scumbags. See ya in a FEMA camp soon. LOL!
JOregon,
Hate to burst your bubble but Lenin didn't follow Marx - even though Lenin mistakenly called it "Marxism."
"Disagreement" (g*d forbid you should actually read Das Kapital ) -- Russia (and China) were the last places on earth Marx would have called for socialism. (YES, socialism -- not communism!)
Marx thought the first place for socialism (YES, socialism...) would be Germany or England -- somewhere there was a real middle-class being squeezed out of existence.
Facts are a bitch, aren't they?
I guess if people can find a way to deny the holocaust and pass it off as propaganda, then I shouldn't be surprised that people dismiss the the trail of blood Che left across Central and South America as US propaganda. Regardless of his political views, Che was a mass murderer. I don't think a mass murderer is someone who should be idolized let alone be a good symbol for a car commercial.
Could have been worse. They could have used their own revolutionary, Adolf Hitler.
zoroaster,
OK, I give up. By your reasoning, General Washington (given his history in the "French-Indian War) was the "Che" of the future USA. And then appointed the head Chief" general of the Continental Army.
One person's insurrection (revolution) is another's treason.
Sorry about "missed" quotation marks.
Either one can read and understand, or can see only the errors.
Blah blah blah, I guess!
Hey tout-suite, I have to do this but to your question of what drove them to it I have to answer: A Mercedes.
Yeah Boris, it is truly sad what is produced here! But, what do you expect from the general population's education level??!!
Hey tout-suite, I have to do this but to your question of what drove them to it I have to answer: A Mercedes.
I don't think so Boris. Che's list of atrocities go beyond supporting his ideals or even being excusable given the circumstances. Possibly there is evidence that Washington went around killing anyone he thought may be British and killing anyone that made him feel threatened after labeling them British? I guess we could extend that to condone Hitler's extermination of Jews as a necessary step to bring about a better Europe and he saw the women and children as his enemy? I mean if you really want to continue down the argument your making. Stalin's execution of thousands of suspected opposition was just another necessary evil to better the lives of the every day Russian? Heck, Jim Jones preached peace, love, happiness, and fondness for sugar flavored beverages. I guess I should show my passion for peace, love happiness, and fondness for sugar flavored drinks by donning a T-shirt with his likeness?
Boris - I think when JOregon stated "all hail Marx and Lennon" it might have been a bit tongue-in-cheek, as might be indicated in the spelling of Lennon like "John Lennon" as opposed to "Vladimir Lenin". And if you're not convinced by my reasoning all you need to do is click on the link in his post and it actually takes you to an album cover that has Groucho Marx and John Lennon pictured on it.
Boris
I am saddened by your lack of historical knowledge.
Did you click the link?
You might learn a little late 60's history. ;-)
Maybe Hitler would have been more appropriate.
Ein Volk!
Ein Reich!
Ein Fuhrer!
The Mercedes symbol on his beret...priceless. Now that's funny.
Crying
Actual Title was:
"How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You Are Not Anywhere At All"
Generally shortened to "the Marx and Lennon album".
A True 1969 CLASSIC, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-4YF7S7rHo.
Side 2 was actually best.
Yes! Stalin sells! LOL R'tard
JOregon
"Boris
I am saddened by your lack of historical knowledge. Did you click the link?"
Uhh... sorry. I am satisfied with both my historical knowledge and ability to keep up with rapidly increasing "history" as proposed online.
Thank you
Sorry Boris, you know nothing about Marx and Lennon.
You're a youngster aren't you?
Try the Youtube link. Actually nothing much has changed since 1969. Political Satire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-4YF7S7rHo.
zoroaster,
I don't think so Boris.
"I don't think so Boris." .. don't think so about what?
One man's hero is another's monster. Che was borned privileged and sacrificed his life to help the poverty strickened and the poor, to elevate their lives, whether he took the right path or not, he wasn't a selfish, planet devouring capitalist or merely a rich pig who just consumed! He, at least cared...
Boris,
I hear ya...they don't...probably won't ever. These folks can't tell the difference between a political form and an economic one, let alone both to step beyond the decades long spoon fed anti-commie/god-bless-America rhetoric.
Boris,
I don't think you can compare him to Washington or fit him into the 'One person's insurrection (revolution) is another's treason' argument. You're asking for a lot of lee-way there.
Not really. It's the same type of parallels as Reagan calling the counter revolutionary forces against the democratically elected Nicaraguan Sandinistas he supported as "Freedom Fighters".
Boris, Did you get your degree in history from Youtube U? Lol!!!
Who really cares? Yes, let's name the 'bankstahs', bluebloods and 1% of the 20th and 21st centuries rather than Che--all hail to Corporate America!
Really, Culheath? I argue the parallels between Washington and Guevara are a stretch; you counter with saying it's roughly parallel to Reagan calling the Contra's "Freedom Fighters". And, this is supposed to refute my point? ; )
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They keep assassinating him for the last 44 years, and his legacy only becomes stronger and more inspiring. In such a short life (39 years) he was like a burning star, his unusual courage, intelligence, altruism, clairvoyance and vision will live forever, and the few troglodytes who learn history from comic books and who deprecate him can only make him look better.
Ernesto Suarez: "a racist, homophobic, anti-semitic" -- can one get more ignorant than that?
Che was an avid chess player, poet, philosopher, well read well traveled, high-caliber intellectual; his wealth and bright future (doctor) did not tame his sense of justice. He was brilliant in seeing that only a united South America can stand to the imperialistic powers of the North continent. It was a miracle that he resisted as much as hi did when he was up against the multi-tentacled mega-killing machine.
A few realized the "divide et impera" (divide and rule) that was happening in South America, but only he was intelligent enough make a meaningful stand. While the leftist dictators as well as the puppet rightist leaders of the South America will be equally judged by posterity, he will stand forever on a pedestal. Because he wasn't manipulated, frightened and he was not hungry for power. Only a great mind and exemplary spirit could avoid so well the traps of being only an ideologue reciting slogans from utopic books. He was a revolutionary. He fought for a better, more fair world, and saw a realistic way to achieve it. He knew he will be betrayed in the end, but was smart enough to know that his fight mattered.
As always, the smart Mercedes understood where are our society goes and identified the REVOLUTION idea with CHE.
What a shame that Mercedes had to bow to the ignorance and obscurely motivated Suarezes of the world, with their brain washed petition. What they don't understand is that Mercedes will gain respect for their initial boldness and vision. And the new socially-aware generation will be inspired and energized by CHE spirit.
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Yes Noelle, Che fought for the poor guy (killing, torturing, and imprisoning any of those poor guys who didn't support his cause). The '1%' (you know those guys, their all the same) are evil and have have more than they should have. So, that must make Che good because he's not the 1%. Brilliant logic. By the way, it's easier to hate when you can reduce individuals to a label that represents who you think they are. Makes them easier to kill if you don't know anything personal about them. Worked for Che.
No, it was supposed to demonstrate a "stretch" and how ubiquitous they are.
Well Culheath, I can't disagree with that. However, I don't think the Contras were glorious freedom fighters. And, I am not blind enough to only look at Che's early work and philosophies while overlooking the obsessed, paranoid, blood thirsty killer he became. He's not someone I idolize. Did he have a lot of good ideals? Yes, but, you shouldn't ignore his actions either.
Tom Jonas,
Tha drivel of yours looks as if it was cut-and-pasted from Wikipedia.
Augh! You beat me to it!!!! (now I've got this stupid underlining I can't get rid of.)
Highlight then hit the broken Chain above.
Don't tell me you remember the 60's? It's just started to come back to me recently.
Nick Danger
Thank you, culheath,
"Not really. It's the same type of parallels as Reagan calling the counter revolutionary forces against the democratically elected Nicaraguan Sandinistas he supported as "Freedom Fighters"."
I've actually care about looking/understanding/researching history.
Che was, in every sense of the word, a "freedom fighter." "Freedom" is, in our century (and the 20th and 19th..,) an objective term.
Late for me and typos....
If you "dismiss" my comment for "typos"... OK. "Whatever."
I stand by my meaning,
JOregon,
I think you mean Marx and Lenin....
"Sorry Boris, you know nothing about Marx and Lennon. You're a youngster aren't you?"
No, I am not. 57 and counting!
Late for me and typos....
If you "dismiss" my comment for "typos"... OK. "Whatever."
I stand by my meaning,
Late for me and typos....
If you "dismiss" my comment for "typos"... OK. "Whatever."
I stand by my meaning,
Anyone...PLEASE!
Define "freedom."
Boris,
Depends upon what you are looking for,
Politically, It can be just about anything a particular political movement want's to describe it as.
Liberty? the same answer as above.
Free Will, again the same as above.
Why do you suppose this is?
Freedom is a philosophy, therefore undefinable, as a philosophy that is usually what anyone wants it to be given whatever their particular circumstances are.
Younger than me.
Considering all the "experimenting" folks did back then I guess you can be forgiven for not remembering one of the best Political and Social Satire/comedy groups of the time.
Nothing like putting the speakers on opposite sides of the room, lowering the lights, getting ripped and listening to a bit of Nick Danger, Third Eye.
Of course it helps if you understand Humphrey Bogart History - A little Maltese Falcon maybe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLDx_mPSLWM
That picture could also symbolize the commie trend of adopting capitalism to pay for their deadend socialism. "Other people's money" has to come from somewhere. Oh, hello china. ;)
Don't forget what set Guevera off. The United Fruit company was nationalized ( because they were making millions and the workers in Guatemala were making pennies), and the US helped overthrow the government so that United Fruit could reap their profits!
KG...and so this led to the Fidel style economics that benefited all the poor people in Cuba, right? And you support Che and Fidel to expand those fantastic economies to other countries of the world, right?? No matter how many people they have to kill to get that fantastic Cuban style economy, right??
Ok, so the liberal hippie "commies are cool" crowd loves Che. And the Conservative older "commies are bad" crowd doesn't.
Quick question. Which of these crowd has the 6 figure disposable income to buy a new Mercedes?
Let me guess Kal El Karpov as soon as your done down at the OWS protest complaining about your student loans that you can't repay; you'll trade in your used van for a brand new Mercedes; assuming you can get approved for another $100,000 in loans...
Yep, Mercedes is going to make serious bank trading a customer base of middle age rich conservatives for college aged liberals drowning in debt.
Good luck with that plan...
No he was in "every sense of the word" a cold blooded murder....
He is some reading for you ....
Che was personally responsible for hundreds of people stood up against walls and Shot.... I would suggest you do some research for yourself ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLF-FdFryrY&feature=related
Che Guevara was one of the Americas' finest heroes. He fought dictators for democracy for all working people and was gunned down in the jungles by right-wing mercenaries. Ronald Reagan considered him the George Washington of Latin America. God Bless Che.
Was that before or after he was killing everybody that did not share the view of Castro and himself?
Wow, I stopped doing your drugs years ago dude. I still have a brain left. Governor Reagan detested Guevara and abhorred everything he stood for. His death was one molecule of karma for all of the innocent people he killed in his lifetime.
Well thank you for that comment. You must be one of those rare persons who does a little reading beyond what our common politicians in the U.S.A. want us to see and know about! As time passes the internet is changing what they can hide and lie to us about. Thank You, Kal El Karpov I appricate you comments very much.
Che Guevara was the biggest killer in Latin American. history. Mr. Karpov you should go back to Russia to the Gulag and enjoy the freedom that Putin will give you. He was the Khmer Ru's in Cuba. Students, Fathers, Mothers, were executed without trial at the fortress of la Cabana in Habana. They even extracted as much blood as possible from the prisoners before they were shot at the famous Cabana wall. By the time they yelled "Viva Cristo Rey" they were almost dead. His last words "I am Che Guevara don't kill me I am more valuable to you alive than dead" what a hero...more a big COWARD, he got what he deserved exactly was he gave thousand on Cuban patriots and this goes for you idiot Alan Pugh, you have no idea on our history...go and live there if you like it so much.
Che Guevara was the biggest killer in Latin American. history. Mr. Karpov you should go back to Russia to the Gulag and enjoy the freedom that Putin will give you. He was the Khmer Ru's in Cuba. Students, Fathers, Mothers, were executed without trial at the fortress of la Cabana in Habana. They even extracted as much blood as possible from the prisoners before they were shot at the famous Cabana wall. By the time they yelled "Viva Cristo Rey" they were almost dead. His last words "I am Che Guevara don't kill me I am more valuable to you alive than dead" what a hero...more a big COWARD, he got what he deserved exactly was he gave thousand on Cuban patriots and this goes for you idiot Alan Pugh, you have no idea on our history...go and live there if you like it so much.
What a Bozo!
I'm sorry -- the combination of a blood-soaked ideologue and a conscience-free corporation is so absurd and horrific that it's funny. We've officially fallen off any normal historical timeline, and are now living in Bizarro World. Heil Che?
I THINK WE'RE ALL BOZOS ON THIS BUS
(Sorry, but it relates to my earlier post)
That is perhaps the most pathetically ignorant falsehood I've read today. Congrats.
If ya do a little research and talk to some people in the know, Che was set up by Castro to git wacked by the SF team. Castro did Che like Stalin did Trotsky. LOL!
I like that these folks consider him to be a mass murderer. The actual mass murder and torture wouldn't do it if not that this small group consider him a mass murderer. So that's like Pol Pot, who many scarred Cambodians consider to be amass murderer. Or Genghis Khan, who many Persians consider to be a mass murderer. Or Jeffrey Dahmer who many homosexuals consider to be a serial killer. Lord have mercy.
I didn't know that Guevara actually wrote that he had unquenchable bloodlust. Makes sense though.
And apparently somebody hear said:
Aside from that incredible line about Reagan (and Christopher Hitchens thought highly of the Pope), G-d Bless Che? Dude. he was a Marxist. What about atheism don't you understand? Oh is it the no god part. Oh okay. Well now you know. Marxists believe there is no god. Glad to help POS.
Comrade Karpov, did you come to America from Russia to promote your propaganda aberations ? Do you think people from USA are all stupids? Please refrain to discuss about something you don't have ay idea but your misinformation you received there in school or maybe at communist-leninist party meetings. Better to comeback to Russia if you like so much mass murderers like Che Guevara and your symbol-number one murderer in history, Josef Stalin.
Kal, Bay of Pigs? Yeah, I'm thinking that Boris was your study partner. :~)
It just amazes me how the most stupid people think they're so enlightened! Propaganda works so well. Re-writing history has been the collegiate rage for quite awhile, now. They actually believe this sub-human murderer was some kind of savior - he was just killed by a more skilled sub-human murderer. Leave it to Mercedes-Benz....Nazis still abound. You can't put you guard down, monsters like this have enormous power. You know, extreme "left" and extreme "right" meet at the same point - neither believe in individual freedom.
"Guevara pointed out to Cortez the poor condition of the schoolhouse, stating that it was "anti-pedagogical" to expect campesino students to be educated there, while "government officials drive Mercedes cars" ... declaring "that's what we are fighting against."[188]"
Smooth move Mercedes, smooth move... HAHA! I wonder if the brilliant marketing company Merc employed got dropped after this fiasco.
Che Guevara, A terrorist and hero to every lib.
Apparently not to goobers like you? I'd guess you still miss being able to order darkies around.
Ayn Rand...atheist, free love amoralist and knuckleheaded godhead to every conservative businessman.
Richard Nixon, liar and machiavellian meshuggana who tried to usurp the American electoral process, beloved by every Republican.
Newt Gingrich, liar and serial adulterer while trying impeach President Bill Clinton for immorality. At one time a front runner in the current crop of Republican reprobates.
Just a few of your heroes at work...
Heard a phrase once, "Freedom Fighter" don't remember who was using it then, 1980 something I believe.
Reagan rings a bell.
Are your heroes all defect-free, Langston? Yeah, I thought not.
Yes I am sure Langston's hero like Lennin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Trotsky, Mao, Castro, and this jackass Guevara would be honored to have him a spokesman.
What you can see on this article's comments section are how many closet Communists and Stalinists there are in the Democratic Party in America.
We have a Stalinist Langston on here saying Ayn Rand is comparable to a murderer Che Guevera?
The most common tactic amongst American Stalinists, who usually won't admit they support mass murder in the cause of socialism, is to lie and claim America is just as bad as Commie killer X, Y, Z.
They know it's impossible to say the Nazis they support were good people, but they think if they claim well, they were no worse criminally than the US, then at least socialist/communism is a viable option.
Fils; Defect free????? If personally murdering people and being judge jury and executioner for thousands of others is a "defect" in your book. You seriously need therapy, or better yet permanent confinement. Hell, bring back che and you can get cozy with him while he introduces you to the business end of his gun.
Wow! I get how some of us don't see eye to eye on political direction of the US. I mean after all most of you cant help that you're weak minded and believe that everything will be okay if we just trust the government to do it all for us. You're sheep, you were born that way and we can still live next to each other, have a couple of beers and enjoy some laughs (at baracks expense). It's cool, I can still appreciate that you love this country in a warped little way.
BUT!!!! These IDIOTS who support someone like che are unbelievable. I can't believe I have to share the same frickin' internet with you guys let alone the same soil. Cuba will take you, go, please, go to your promised land and be happy in your communist world. You love it and the things that piece of feces stood for so by all means ...go go go go go...Get the hell out of here! The statue of liberty should have said "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...BUT NO DUMB-ASSES ALLOWED!"
Chesty, did you know that "Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite" is the slogan of the dread socialist FRENCH? Or that the phrase's roots date back to the FRENCH REVOLUTION, when people not unlike Che Guevara butchered French aristocrats, intellectuals, landowners... anyone who annoyed them?
Didn't looking under the bed for Communists die with the Edsel, black-and-white TV, and jitter-bugging, or something like that? It's a failed system with a grotesque body count. Che Guevara was a fanatic, and honeybuns, they come in all persuasions, and they all wind up doing damage. Praise the Lord.
Hmmm, someone who continuously attempted to divide and conquer his country in the name of helping the poor. He succeeded, and now that country is one of the poorest (it's citizens) nations on earth yet the elite rulers still live lavishly. I've heard of some other guy who is constantly trying to divide his country too, and he's kind of succeeding. I wonder what the outcome will be? I'm NOT making comparisons when it comes to the brutality that che delivered...but on another level it is interesting. I'm just sayin'.
Gee, I guess the US embargoes and staunch refusal to engage with Cuba for 60 years has nothing to do with Cuba's poverty, eh? You know Castro made peaceful economic overtures to the States long before he accepted USSR help, right?
How is it that the US has normalized relations with Viet Nam but not Cuba? Explain that.
Last time that I looked, it wasn't just 90 miles from Florida to Vietnam, and I don't think Ho Chi Minh and his successors ever did much to "export revolution".
I'm surprised, as horrible as every leftist thinks the U.S.A. is, that anyone thinks Cuba is missing anything by not having access to us Yankee capitalist pigs and our products, ideas, etc.
It's also fun to see that the same people who think that "sanctions" are the only way to deal with international problems are the ones that tell us that "sanctions" against Cuba don't work and are ridiculous and then say when asked about the imploding Castro/Cuba economy say that it's due to the "sanctions". Make up your minds already, but some sort of logical consistency and intellectual honesty would be nice.
Che Guevara's name and image still resonate because he was handsome, charismatic, died young, and most importantly, never actually held the reigns of power.
All revolutionaries are romantic figures to some. But it is their very success, if they achieve it, which transforms them into politicians or tyrants.
But regardless of the ultimate worth of his life, and death, attempting to use his image to sell luxury cars is just plain stupid. The executive leaders of Mercedes must be smoking crack, or perhaps they are just high on that most pernicious drug of all, an over-developed ego.
Viva la Revolución!
...or something like that.
zoroaster
He's not someone I idolize. Did he have a lot of good ideals? Yes, but, you shouldn't ignore his actions either.
I don't...I think he mentally broke down at the end. I'm not sure if I could've survived that sort of stress either. I think he ended up with PTSD.
The 60 year old sanctions today make no sense...the early ones were what drove Cuba into the arms of the Russians. There's no inconsistency in that.
rightwingwacjob: Glad to see that my one line comment can, um, inspire you to unload multiple paragraphs of hyperbolic, asinine drivel.
Oh, and Che'd be introduced to S&W .40 Hydrashoks before he ever got that close to me. TTFN
Oh Lord, won't ya buy me a Mercedes Benz
Even Castro's got Porsches, I must make amends.
My people are crying, they got no gull-wing coupes
So Lord, won't ya buy Che a Mercedez Benz.
Castro doesn"t drive.
Che Guevara, mass murdering socialist and liberal hero.
Dick Cheney, mass murdering corporate criminal and hero to conservatives.
bush...war criminal.
Alan...if Cuba is so wonderful, please go. We will not miss you.
Careful Matt, go trolling and you will get trolls. I must make one observation though....ever notice all the revolutionary sympathizers are here in the USA, where they don't know what really goes on elsewhere?
You know history is not taught properly anymore, otherwise people would still be learning that one of the first known applications of communism was right in my home state of Massachusetts, in 1620-1621. The Mayflower Compact established communal farming, harvesting and sharing of labor and the colony almost perished because those who felt like taking it easy did so at the expense of those who believed in the ideal - until they, too, figured it was silly to bust butt just to support the freeloaders. By the time winter came around, the foodstores were seriously depleted and a lot of people starved. The only thing they lacked was a Stalin to sell the rest of the food to the natives.
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So are we soon to see the "Guevara star " replacing the Mercedes emblem ? When are the workers taking over ownership of Daimler Motor Group ?
Ahhhh - ain't free market capitalism great !
Free market would be great. Not what we have now.
"Che" would never have lent his name to an Elitist Product like Mercedes......the ignorance ( or deliberate misstatements) of history displayed in some of these comments is pathetic....
Uhoh, the Stalinist crowd on the left are getting uncomfortable because one of their favorite murderers of innocent people is getting bashed.
"He was a hero! He murdered innocents so failed socialism could make Cubans poorer! What a man!"
It's always the sadistic animal torturers who grow up into such angels...
The US owes $15 trillion? Capitalism is working just great.
$15 trillion has nothing to do with capitalism, it has to do with an out of control government.
Yeah, because it's the food stamps that destroyed our economy under Bush, not all those tax cuts...
You mean the ones that were unilaterally imposed, TM?
So? We don't have direct democracy at the federal level, so everything is unilaterally imposed.
And this board is a perfect example of why we don't, and shouldn't.
I have owned, but never, never again a Mercedes. They ought to lock up the idiot who designed and the idiot who approved this ad for one of the manufactures of fine automobiles. VIVA BMW!!
BMW owner here who thinks that Che Guevara, Ayn Rand, Richard Nixon, and Newt Gingrich are ALL a$$ klowns... along with Mercedes and VW (Audi) owners too.
the last 3 killed no civilians in peace time in cold blood, the first did.
First clue that a leftwinger would support mass murder in the cause of socialism: they compare Communist killers to Americans or American politicans as if they're equal.
I called Che an a$$ klown, so that means I support left-wing mass murder??? I'm glad somebody hipped me to that! I'm so dumb; I'm glad the internet people are here to correct me!
Nixon was most definitely not an ass clown, Zuper.
Who brought Nixon into this discussion? He was the most anti-American rogue ever to sit in the White House. His paranoia and criminal actions finally brought him to disgrace but not soon enough.
Aw, re-farkin-lax. All the fake indignation is getting old.
You do know that BMW produced military vehicles for the Nazi's during the war right? Jeez Louise.
@jean pear - Langston Witherspoon brought up Nixon in a collapsed comment above, along with the other two
@ Toasty - Genuinely curious here, what is it exactly that you admire about Nixon? That he was a republican? Is that all it takes?
Trust me, I'm no fan of republicans. Ask around...
JM: Ah yes....BMW - short for Big Money Wasted!..Having owned S class Audis, bimmers, and AMG Mercs, there is no comparison, Merc rules and bmw drools (even the glorified VW Audis are way more fun to drive than new bimmers). Outside of a Saab (aka Slob) my BMW was the biggest POS I ever owned!
Che is small potatoes on the commie body count scale which is somewhere above 100 million. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
http://www.scottmanning.com/content/communist-body-count/
@ 5th - Touring car championships and industry awards conflict with your position that Mercs beat bimmers. Have any Merc models been in the Car and Driver 10 best for 20 years straight? No. Does Merc even have a model that could be competitive in touring car? No. The only way you're right is if you're doing something like comparing a 1985 318i to a 2012 SLS AMG, even I would agree then. If you want to compare apples to apples, you need to compare AMG and S class to M. By the way, the vast majority of auto enthusiasts and journalists don't agree with you. If you need a citation, you clearly don't follow the industry.
No worries Cary; the Che supporters will make up for the sales they lose from you.
Just as soon as they finish college, stop protesting, get a job, and pay off their loans. Which I think is scheduled to happen on or around the 17th of never.
Hey, how many of you Che supporters have $200,000 to buy a new fully loaded S-class or CL-Class?
Ok... now how many of you have massive debt, the bank would laugh at you for asking for a loan of that size, and you have no prospects for ever having that amount of disposable income for a car?
Somehow I suspect those projected new sales numbers might not match the older right-wing conservatives who don't think Che was really all that great and could buy their cars.
But I might be wrong. Are Che-loving Communist-supporting protesters only driving used vans and wearing beat up clothes for the look and really have a ton of cash lying around?
They're saving all of their real money to support La Revoluccion ....
Che would be pissed to see his image used to advertize luxury cars
These guys are idiots and so are most of the folks who think this is not a big deal. Che was a sc--m bag and so is Castro and family.
No! the scum bags are those like you who only know one version and have no intention of looking any further to find a little truth!
Kboy is a truck driver with limited vocabulary.
Three words:
Get a grip.
To quote Rudi and Fat Albert: Nooooooooo Clllaaaaassssss!
Long hair and a beret..."hey Che makes for a cool poster for my dorm!." And that was me back in 1971! Then I studied history. GMAB! Study it.
Go back and study some more to get the context. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Che was a very idealistic person in his early career, when he was studying medicine. He became radicalized from the horrors of injustice and war. In our country the people have been insulated from the realities of the world, but it is time we see the way things really are. Don't believe any line the US govt gives about our involvement in any world events. Study it for yourself--outside of just US media or sanitized textbooks. Don't believe everything you think. Remember who told you to believe and consider the source, follow the money.
outlander, he was the same as a Nazi.
Didn't Jane Fonda say something like she regreted not Screwin Che When she had the chance back in the early 60's. This was about a year ago. LOL!
It's better yesterday's long hair than egg- shaved heads of today.
I'll post a youtube video of my 300TD when I'm done with it.
Let's hope that Mercedes realizes that they made a mistake and they reverse their decision. I'm an American living in Brazil. We have to remember that there are many uneducated people living in Latin America. Many don't know that Che wasn't such a good guy. In Brazil, his picture is on many shirts, etc but if you ask the people, they know nothing about him. Mercedes is a good company with good products but their Marketing Dept. obviously made a poor decision. Those that are on the Nazi nonsense and all that need to stop the drama and chalk it up as a poor decision. Mercedes is not the first company to make a mistake.
I wonder if Mercedes used the same advertising company as Bennetton did. Either that, or Mercedes' ad company/marketing dept. admired the reaction Benetton got for their ads last month.
Yes, murdering people so you can institute the failed 1800's idea of government controlled economies "in the interests of the workers" is so, so cool!
Viva Che! Go slaughter middle class farmers! Viva la Revolucion!
What do you pull "Puller"?
Trolling paychecks.
Guevara "was a racist, homophobic, antisemitic and tyrannical killer who admitted in his own writing to his endless blood thirst," the petition declares. Sounds like the sound conservative values of today - what's the problem? The right should should applaud this coup - a communist selling high-end autos. The last thing Che would ever imagined or desired.
Esteban? are you by chance cuban?
I decided to leave a comment against my better judgement. I am dumbfounded and flabbergasted to see so many uninformed and ignorant people who still walk around in this Universe...wake up and smell the roses...none of you liberals were there to really see what the "revolucion" was all about...I was and I saw it...you are all total idiots if you still believe in the "Che" myth, we never did...
Sounds more like the Left these days with how authoritarian and tyrannical they've become...
Che Guevara was a mass murdering pussy.
And you are Don Quijote de la Mancha.
Mercedes certainly has a tin ear here. How about an ad with Hitler riding in his Mercedes staff car during WWII? "The choice of executives, despots, tyrants, dictators, autocrats and psychopathic murderers everywhere!" Run it during the Super Bowl!
Why just one ad though? They can also show Manson with his forehead swastika replaced with the Mercedes star - looks into the camera with crazy-eyes and orders us all to buy one now!
Guevara "was a racist, homophobic, antisemitic and tyrannical killer who admitted in his own writing to his endless blood thirst," the petition declares.
In related news, Republicans in the U.S. now seek to add Che to ballot in S.C.
Wes got uncomfortable when a murderous Commie hero of his started getting bashed, so he went to the usual leftwing defense of their favorite killers in such instances:
"America is just as bad"
LMAO. Now if the late, great admiral would only pull out the stick. VIVA Wyoming!
I'm in the market for a new car - I've already called the local M-B dealer to let them know that I'll be going to the local BMW dealership unless M-B withdraws this ad immediately. Most of us who can afford a Mercedes-Benz are capitalists NOT communists.
I bet they are still laughing at you for making their day!!! Most of you who can afford a M-B are also a bunch of wussies.
just to clarify something for you emls......
capitalism is an economic system...communism is a political system, and the two are not mutually exclusive.
Actually, Duh?, that is completely not true. Communism and capitalism are both economic systems. Democracy and Totalitarianism, as two examples, are political systems.
Ironic, isn't it? Kinda like Osama Bin Laden on an Oscar Meyer commercial....