Retailers looking for holiday shoppers to defy economy

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It's beginning to look a lot like the holiday shopping season at stores like Macy's Herald Square in New York.

With the unemployment rate stuck above 9 percent and housing prices heading lower again, many American households have little to celebrate. But that doesn’t seem to have dampened expectations for a relatively strong holiday shopping season.

“The last thing parents cut back on is Christmas presents for their child,” said Toys R Us CEO Gerald Storch.  “So Christmas always comes.”

After a rough year, retail sales have already begun to perk up well before the unofficial Black Friday start of the shopping season the day after Thanksgiving. Consumer spending rose 0.5 percent in October after a 1.1 percent increase in September as sales rose on everything from big-ticket electronics to sporting goods to books, according to the Commerce Department.

“Households may not be in especially celebratory mood, but they do seem willing to ramp up purchases in the final months of the year," said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist at the Economic Outlook Group.

The National Retail Federation is looking for an “average” holiday shopping season – up 2.8 percent – after a surprisingly strong 5.2 percent gain in 2010. That would be just a bit better than the 10-year average increase of 2.6 percent.

Some retailers are even more upbeat.

“We’re very encouraged and very confident about the holiday season," said Macy's spokesman Jim Sluzewski. “We’ve told Wall Street to expect our sales to be up 4 percent to 4.5 percent in the fourth quarter. That’s relatively consistent with the sales increase we’ve seen all year."

Profit increases may be harder to come by, especially for discount retailers attempting to win over cash-strapped households. Discounters are expected to fight to gain market share by paring prices to the bone.

Global retail giant Wal-Mart signaled what shoppers, and its competitors, can expect with quarterly results that showed profits fell  even as sales rose. Rivals Target and Costco will have to respond to Wal-Mart's aggressive cost-cutting or risk losing sales, said Deborah Weinswig, Citi Investment Research retail analyst.

“You’re seeing Wal-Mart take a very aggressive stand on pricing,” she said. “We’re seeing a very new Wal-Mart and they are taking no prisoners.”

Department store chains are turning to exclusive brands to avoid the increasingly intense price competition on items sold elsewhere. Kohl’s said its 20 percent boost in third-quarter profits was helped by strong demand for its exclusive Jennifer Lopez line. About half the company’s sales come from private label or exclusive brands, up from a quarter in 2004. Macy’s is relying on exclusive brands Tommy Hilfiger, Martha Stewart and Armani jeans to boost its bottom line.

As in years past, retailers have worked hard to better manage the supply of goods. If they order too much, they either have to slash prices more, which cuts into profits, or risk getting stuck with unsold merchandise. If they order too little, and their customers can’t find what they’re looking for, they’ll shop elsewhere.

Getting the right balance was even more difficult as widespread uncertainty about the economic outlook this summer prompted retailers to keep inventories lean. That could reduce the need for heavy promotional price-cutting, especially among high-end retailers with evergreen luxury brands.

“I think shoppers are always looking for a deal,” said Lord & Taylor CEO Brendan Hoffman. “But I don’t think you'll see super-deep discounts as compared to the last couple of years. The world's gotten promotional over the last few years and will continue to be so this year, but probably not noticeably more than over the last few years.”

The recent uptick in retail sales volume comes as consumers have begun to catch a bit of a break, which could help ease the pressure on holiday shopping budgets. Overall, prices fell in October –- largely due to a hefty 3.1 percent drop in gasoline prices –- the first monthly decline since June. Weekly earnings also bumped up last month, by 0.3 percent, though they’re still 1.7 percent below last year.

Retailers have also continued to ramp up online sales, which still make up a small portion of overall sales. But online shopping is growing more than twice as fast as in-store sales. More than two-thirds of retailers expected their e-commerce revenues to grow 15 percent or more, according to a survey by NRF's Shop.org division. Online giant Amazon posted a 44 percent increase in sales in the third quarter, helped by strong demand for its new Kindle Fire e-reader, which is expected to boost holiday sales.

To better reel in online shoppers, retailers have spruced up websites, created apps for mobile devices and turned to social media to try to extend the reach of their promotions. Three-quarters said they were expanding their presence on Facebook and 45 percent are boosting their Twitter presence. About a third said they plan to use a variety of digital channels to reach out to consumers with daily offers of deals and other promotions

More than 40 percent said they planned to offer free shipping, which has helped boost traffic for shipping companies. FedEx expects to ship record volume this holiday season: more than 260 million shipments, a 12 percent increase from 2010, between Thanksgiving and Christmas. The company expects shipments to peak at 17 million packages on its busiest day, which it figures will come on Dec. 12. That's 10 percent more than its busiest day last year. UPS has been more cautious in its forecasting, saying much depends on the turnout for the last two weeks of the season.

How much do you plan to spend on the holidays this year?

A look at the people who will actually be out shopping next Friday, as well as the hot trends this year, like comparison shopping, with CNBC's Courtney Reagan.

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9.9%
More than last year
136 votes
31.5%
About the same
433 votes
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Less than last year

We are not spending a dime this year just as last year. Economy is horrible, no jobs, no insurance, lots of people are destitute.

  • 14 votes
 - 7:48 am EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
About the same

I also intend on searching for tags that say MADE in the USA!

  • 15 votes
 - 7:59 am EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

Bad year. I am employed but I have much less money due to energy gouging. My spending money is going to the oil giant's CEO.

  • 8 votes
 - 8:45 am EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

I am only buying for my nieces and nephew. The adults will be getting homemade food items such as my ham soup and snackin crackers.

  • 4 votes
 - 12:10 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

Our teenage son only wants money and we aren't buying for anyone else this year.

  • 3 votes
 - 1:05 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

Last year, spent next to nothing, this year, nothing to spend

  • 12 votes
 - 1:24 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

likely to get laid off soon and if I dont I will feel like a winner for not being suckered into the holiday spending push

  • 8 votes
 - 1:38 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
More than last year

I'll spend a bit more than last year. Financially I am a bit better off than last year.

  • 1 vote
 - 1:56 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

If I were making 100K I would not spend in on junk from China.

  • 7 votes
 - 2:15 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

Ya thanks to the economy there will be a lot of very sad children christmas morning

  • 1 vote
 - 2:31 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

My finances haven't improved. It obvious to me, the global finances haven't improved and will not soon. It's going to be a long hard slog

  • 2 votes
 - Acosmet
 - 2:49 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

Spending lots less than last year. Also making a lot of gifts this year!

  • 2 votes
 - Lynn W
 - 2:57 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
Less than last year

85% decrease in income...yeah, I'm spending less.

  • 2 votes
 - 3:07 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
About the same

Gerald Storch is right; however, since TRU is opening on Thanksgiving Day, I won't be spending a PENNY there this year! I shop LOCAL.

  • 3 votes
 - 3:13 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
More than last year

Fear is so last year...fun is in thing..

     - 3:25 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
    Less than last year

    Not spending at all on Christmas - you can't have what little I have left.....

    • 5 votes
     - 3:39 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
    About the same

    We will be spending about what we were able to last year. We will be making an effort to buy locally as well.

    • 1 vote
     - MNCS
     - 3:58 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
    About the same

    Always have a budget for each person and save throughout the year so that it is not such a big unpleasant surprise costwise.

       - 4:08 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
      Less than last year

      How can we defy the economy when so many are unemployed? My kids will be wondering why Santa didn't come this year.
      :(

      • 2 votes
       - 4:14 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
      Less than last year

      Prices have gone up. Dollar worth less so I have to save eve more for retirement equals much less disposable income.

      • 1 vote
       - hs321
       - 4:26 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
      Less than last year

      This Hallmark Holiday needs to go away. Christmas is about spending time with family & religious reflection - NOT PLASTIC CRAP FROM CHINA

      • 1 vote
       - nwcynic
       - 4:58 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
      Less than last year

      We spent very little last year and this year it will be next to nothing. We simply don't have the money!

      • 1 vote
       - 6:16 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
      Less than last year

      I hope these retailers choke on their Communist Chinese Junk. I'm buying American Made products this year, if any can be found. I hope.....

      • 2 votes
       - 9:16 pm EST on Mon Nov 21, 2011
      Less than last year

      More time, less stuff, this is my new mantra

      • 1 vote
       - 10:36 am EST on Tue Nov 22, 2011
      About the same

      And it won't be on Black Friday.

      • 1 vote
       - 11:46 am EST on Tue Nov 22, 2011

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      Well at least they can hope. Oh wait, thats right it is called hope and change. Now even the change in my pocket is dwindling. Yup great team in the White House. Laser beam focus was it not?

      • 4 votes
      Reply#1 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:38 AM EST

      Well they better pray, lmao! It's not gonna happen. We're broke you greedy fu*ks.

      • 3 votes
      #1.1 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:19 PM EST

      Keep your dollars safe. Economy is running on borrowed time. The excessive debt deflates. When the money supply deflates, you cannot sustain the jobs. Printing money and inflating credit are not the fix. Easy money is the cause of the bubble and the crash that happens aftermath. Recession and paying off debt is the fix. But as the government delays recessions all the time, it sets us up for a depression. Consumer economy is a myth. There is no such thing as consumer economy. Next time you hear consumer is holding up the economy, it simply means we are borrowing and spending. It is going to end and the crash will go into books just like Tulip Mania, South Sea Bubble. This yet another Financial Mania.

      tradingstocks.net/html/financial_mania_continues.html


      • 4 votes
      #1.2 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:12 PM EST
      Reply

      Really not a reason to celebrate the holidays this year. Our government is the worst it's ever been. They cannot work together so neither party needs to be in office this coming election. Most of us will vote to fire them all.

      • 11 votes
      Reply#2 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:52 AM EST

      You are correct but we have no assurance that the new batch of criminals will be any better.

      • 7 votes
      #2.1 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:16 AM EST

      Meet the new boss, same as the old boss....

      Lyric from an old "Who" song (early 70s)- I agree; have no use for either party. A smart shopper will stock up on canned food, water, and other basic necessities for survival. I could care less about Black Friday and will not participate.

      Austerity measures are coming, thanks to Wall St. AND the current 2 party system that we know and love.

      • 7 votes
      #2.2 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:32 AM EST

      Not only will we be spending less, but much, much less. Here's my take on Obamas Hope & Change theme from 2008. The CHANGES he implemented are all bad and I HOPE he's a 1 term president.

      • 4 votes
      #2.3 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:25 AM EST

      Stock up on .22 ammo. Can't be reloaded and may be worth it's weight in Gold soon.

      • 3 votes
      #2.4 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:17 PM EST

      I have joined the Boycott against Wal-Mart, Target, Kroger and other stores that will be open on Thanksgiving. I have also joined a call for congress to force employees to close on Holidays, all holidays including Fourth of July, Labor Day etc. I feel Americans work way too much for the non-pay they receive as pay. (My feelings about which holiday employees should get off would be a whole lot different if the Minimum wage was the same as the living wage and Employers were forced to let their employees work a full 40 hours a week. and etc). Its time Congress made a Constitutional Amendment that forces employers to give 6 weeks of paid Vacation a year and 4 of those 6 weeks have to be together and when the Employee wants it.

      • 1 vote
      #2.5 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:17 PM EST

      The Bon-Ton is dumping all three stores in our towns! Guess who's next? Kmart/Sears! Just think, Wal-dump, will have it all to themselves! Scary!

      • 1 vote
      #2.6 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:19 PM EST

      one word,THIS ALL; TEMPORARY !!!........

        #2.7 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:30 PM EST

        Retailers looking for holiday shoppers to defy economy

        The Retailers must be smokn' the same stuff our rep. and dem. leaders must be smokn'.

        In our 3 county area, the 3rd largest employer shut down taking 1300 employees with it..and..

        This winter, the LARGEST employer is laying off up to 900 .. albeit gov. contract workers though.

        Ya' know.... damn thing bout it is...in my opinion...if ALL THIS WERE FIXED tomorrow, if EVERYONE that wanted a job, got it tomorrow...we'd still be years before all this "trickle around" actually helped the bottom line of city / county general revenues. Years before home prices (taxes) went up. blah blah blah etc etc etc.

        ANYONE who thinks even a single day dow rise of say 2,000 means times gettn' better TOMORROW are blowing smoke in the wind.

        YEARS is what it's going to take to fix this mess, if it can be fixed..and the heyday of the 70's - 80's will NEVER be here again. Get used to it !

        Spending more this season ?? uhmmmmm..... NOT ... behind on utility payments as it is.

        • 3 votes
        #2.8 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:35 PM EST
        Reply

        Since the economic guru's and the business media say we are out of the recession and trending up its obvious we will have a better Christmas this year compared to last year. If not, could it be that they have been talking with Forked Tongue"?

        • 2 votes
        Reply#3 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:12 AM EST

        Don't hold your Breath!After all the Economy is coming back according to the Economic Bone headed Geniuses!

        Cough Cough Cough!

        • 2 votes
        Reply#4 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:10 PM EST

        I would be really concerned about a significant uptick in spending this season. If you are going bankrupt anyway - the temptation is to have one last 'special' Christmas. Kind of a 'last meal' attitude for the condemned.

        The stage is already set for higher fuel prices, food prices, and healthcare prices next year. The politics of defeatism is gearing up, too. Next year will likely be a tough one.

        Please, do not forget the charities this season. If you can afford to drop a quarter into a bucket someplace - please, do so. Even a pocket change donation can make a difference. We need to help each other - we are all in this together.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#5 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:15 PM EST

        We have already discussed not giving presents except for the children, with the savings going to the needy. My family has struggled, but we still have a roof over our heads by doubling up our households (4 families in 2 houses now) and food/heat. The food pantry we volunteer for is nearly empty and demand is up. Every little bit helps.

          #5.1 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:28 PM EST

          The stage is already set for higher fuel prices, food prices, and healthcare prices next year. The politics of defeatism is gearing up, too. Next year will likely be a tough one.

          Kroger sent me an email... "we realize food prices have raised SLIGHTLY the last year"

          I couldn't fire back a reply quick enough......"evidently YOU don't do the shopping"

          • 2 votes
          #5.2 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:38 PM EST
          Reply

          Even if you can believe the spin that x-mas will be better than the past why would you want it? What this article is promoting is a fantasy! After 5 yrs of malaise(yes this funk started long before your neighbors screwed up your property values, or your boss looted the corperation.) we are going to "miss out" on something BIG this year.? Better yet you would be a fool not to shower your offspring with cheap crap from a turned around WAL-BARN. It reminds me of a comic bit of "you cant have ice cream because your family is on welfare". Christmas isnt real. Debt slavery is real!

          • 2 votes
          Reply#6 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:37 PM EST

          As for the idea of seeking out items "made in USA" a helpful hint. Try going to canada or england! The truth is that this downturn has created spare capacity in China. With so many people to take care of " made in America" has huge problems. I believe that Chinese goods will be flooding in at never before seen prices and or rates. This next several years will be the Chinese "knock out blow" for American exporters. Higher dollar and Chinese exporting needs crushes America! The western world has not one leg to stand on. It amazes me that as our goods will be bought cheaper or living standards continue to drop. It wont be long before an inflation movement takes the batton from ows or the tea-partiers.

            Reply#7 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:51 PM EST

            Oh ye Obama bashers left out in the cold. Clinging to your falling gold. Crying along with your pundit on the radio. confused yet confident because your doing what your told. Go ahead and hate your neighbors because everything is all their fault or take the easy safer way out and blame the president because your happiest when you blame and hate. Just remember that John Mccain is four years older and still wiser than you!

              Reply#8 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:03 PM EST

              "Retailers looking for holiday shoppers to defy economy"; I wouldn't bet on it, "consumer confidence" is at an ALL time LOW.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#9 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:57 PM EST

              W need to organize one weekend every month a "do not buy" strike by all citizens until manufacturing returns to this country.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#10 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:02 PM EST

              JJ-463738

              Great idea; maybe you should contact the leader of the OWS movement to see if the both of you can put it together.

              • 2 votes
              #10.1 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:39 PM EST
              Reply

              I am a public school ecucator and have faced increases in my health care premiums, have already endured one furlough day and face more. I've just had a .50 an hour pay cut. Even with my husband and I working two jobs, we can't keep up with our basic living expenses. Now the city of Seattle wants me to pay up on two-decade old parking tickets, so there's no Christmas for us this year. I hope this hurts retailers though. They all send money to republicans who are responsible for taking our money to line their pockets and none of them pay taxes. Maybe they'll figure out that forcing us to take furloughs, etc. will hurt this country. I want Walmart to go broke. The CEO of Walmart makes over $6,000 an hour while only paying his employees just over $8 an hour. There's something wrong with this picture

              • 4 votes
              Reply#11 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:12 PM EST

              Holly - Don't think for a moment the Dems have your back. They talk big but you know in your heart both parties are corrupt.

              I hate Wal-Mart. They killed our Main Street. Watching all the business leave was heart-breaking.

              • 3 votes
              #11.1 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:21 PM EST
              Reply

              At least the Dems are trying to save Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. Repbulicans want to privatize it so corporations can make more money from it. Nothing without profit, that's their motto. They worship the almighty dollar and that's it. SS is NOT ENTITLEMENT! You pay into it. It's EARNED INCOME! CEO pay has gone up 30% while everyone else's pay (the 99% have seen pay decreases). Don't vote them all out. Some of them are on your side. This is what happens when you elect Tea Baggers. They have their own interests at hear -- that is, don't let the rich pay taxes. It costs $ to run this country and everyone needs to pay their FAIR SHARE. When you have BOA, Walmart, BP, Chase, etcl not paying any taxes yet making billions in profits while the rest of us face pay cuts and furloughs and mob loss, there's something wrong with that. If you think it's okay for a CEO of a pharmaceutical company or of a health insurance company to make $20 million a year while many go withoug health care or medicine, then you are as evil as they are.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#12 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:20 PM EST

              Holly - again they are saying they are saving it but don't have any answers how to pay for it.

              It's actions not words that matter.

                #12.1 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:23 PM EST

                Holly: I agree one hundred percent but our Millionaire Politicians don't hear and don't care. We have to stop sending Millionaires to Washington. In fact if a candidate has a million dollars the people should Not vote for that candidate because that candidate has only two things in mind, helping himself and other Millionaires. STOP sending Millionaires to Washington. We only have ourselves to blame.

                • 3 votes
                #12.2 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:02 PM EST

                We don't send millionaires to Washington they become millionaires when they get there Did you not see 60 Minutes last week ? Boehner and Pelosi are just a drop in the bucket of that Democrat and Republican controlled cesspool called Washington DC. Progressives and Conservatives are destroying this country.

                and most of the people that post here support it that is a true shame. all of you are to blame.

                  #12.3 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:21 PM EST

                  Yeah, those greedy republicans are running the federal reserve right now (hmmm isn't it obama tha has that treasury secretary for all you numbsculls) and loaning trillions away at zero percent so they can invest in us bonds instead of loaning money. Yea, he is saving Social security alright....You folks ever heard of bankrupcty cause that is where obama is leading you. Thats where your going holly! Just remember that the next time you put some dumb as s putz in the white house.

                    #12.4 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:15 PM EST

                    @Jolly Joker: I'm sorry but your entire argument became invalid when you spelled numbskulls as "numbsculls".

                    Blaming any of this on the President or a single party only addresses part of the issue. The continued crap both parties push while not caring what falls by the wayside. Both are guilty of only pushing certain issues and agendas then letting everything else just fall apart. (Newsflash: Both parties are what's wrong with this country because they enforce rigid party thinking rather than open-minded thinking that could solve problems)

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.5 - Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:15 AM EST

                    ThatGuy ???

                    You should be banned for bringing up facts. <sarc>

                    You're not in a minute going to change some of these peoples minds. They think all this mess came about in only the last couple years, or last couple of prezs.

                    Many of us know this road we're on, was built OVER THIRTY years ago.

                    And yes both parties are guilty. (ooops.. my bad.. facts again..I'll quit now)

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.6 - Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:57 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Come on people, It's Christmas shopping time. Get out there and buy that Chinese made product, or maybe you prefer Japanese made product's. India, pakistan, Vietnam, Thailand, Mexico, Guatamala, Korea? Come on folks it's all there. What? You want something made in America? Sorry, that's not possible. You see the Merry Christmas part comes when the money you pay for these products go to China and other countries and then They have the Merriest Christmas of all. Thank you American Business.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#13 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:25 PM EST

                    Yeah, obama just signed those trade deals..get out there and make a korean rich. They will appreciate it! out by the DMZ.. Since maybe since holly above is a progressive liberal, maybe she could send some cheer and holly during this hollyday season.

                      #13.1 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:19 PM EST
                      Reply

                      Results of poll may be misleading. I voted for "about the same," which = zero. Kids are 18 and 20--haven't had gifts for Christmas since 2008. My small business tanked in April 2009 thanks to offshore outsourcing. Now back to work but making approximately 1/3 of what I used to. Oldest son handed me the paycheck from his part-time job to help with food for Thanksgiving.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#14 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:51 PM EST

                      I just feel bad for the kids, its not their fault and it's all only going to get worse. I pray for our next generation. Heck i wouldn't blame them if they put us all in nursing homes and fed us cat food for what we've done to what they stand to inherit. Pray now, God Please... Bless America for our children's sake! In all seriousness, God please bless America because as it stands, this country needs all the blessings it can get.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#15 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:57 PM EST

                      I am sorry but Wall Street and its over reaction to events and your Washington polical machine has wiped ou a recovery and a Christmas for all!!!

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#16 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:31 PM EST

                      I won't be buying gifts this year. I will however continue to stock up on necessities...

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#17 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:42 PM EST

                      Dream on. Hell, not only are we not having a Xmas...no gifts... there is no reason to put up a tree either.

                      Let's see, what is Obama's favorite food? SPAM! Looks like that's what we'll be eating. If it's good enough for him, must be good enough for us huh? (Somehow I don't see his Xmas dinner as such though...probably steak and lobster. Maybe a side of caviar.

                        Reply#18 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:42 PM EST

                        Beev, he may eat crow instead.

                          #18.1 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:54 PM EST
                          Reply

                          GREED is the name of the game! Why not do away with Thanksgiving and have Green Thursday before Black Friday!

                            Reply#20 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:44 PM EST

                            It's nice the retailers are still hopeful about consumers defying the economy. Are they still hoping that someone can defy gravity as well?

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#21 - Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:23 PM EST

                            yeah right, but they gonna fall on their arses.

                              #21.1 - Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:18 AM EST
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