Fed chairman: 'Recovery is close to faltering'

Jason Reed / Reuters

U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke testifies at a Joint Economic Committee hearing on the economic outlook Tuesday.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told lawmakers Tuesday that the economic recovery is close to faltering and recent economic indicators point to “the likelihood of more sluggish job growth” ahead.

Appearing before the Joint Economic Committee in Washington, D.C., Tuesday to deliver his outlook for the U.S. economy, Bernanke said recent data on jobless claims and surveys of hiring plans suggest job growth will continue to be weak.

The Fed chief also said the economy is growing more slowly than the Fed had expected and that the most significant factor depressing consumer confidence is poor job growth.

“The recovery is close to faltering,” Bernanke told lawmakers, adding that the Fed is prepared to take further steps to prop up the recovery. “We need to make sure that the recovery continues and doesn’t drop back and that the unemployment rate continues to fall downward.”

Bernanke also said the brinkmanship over the debt ceiling over the summer was a negative for financial markets. Specifically, the perception in the minds of some investors that the U.S. might actively consider defaulting on its debt -- and that it might be recurring periodically.

“It was the reason that the downgrade occurred, S&P cited the political process more than the amount of debt outstanding,” he said. “It’s no way to run a railroad, if I may say so.”

The Fed chairman also reiterated that Congress should not cut spending sharply when the economy is weak.

In prepared testimony, Bernanke said lawmakers face a complex situation. While they must avoid making decisions that could impede the recovery, he also noted they must go further than the $1.5 trillion in deficit cuts being sought by a special panel.

Bernanke also commented on the sovereign debt problems in Europe and their impact on the U.S., saying “it is difficult to judge how much these financial strains have affected U.S. economic activity thus far, but there seems little doubt that they have hurt household and business confidence, and that they pose ongoing risks to growth.”

A default by Greece, the most troubled economy in the euro zone, could result in a frozen credit system, potentially pushing the struggling U.S. economy into a recession, analysts say.

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Bernanke is a great example of what happens when an academic tries to solve real world problems. The Fed has fundamentally misunderstood our economy since 2006. And, now we are in hell.

  • 23 votes
#1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:17 AM EDT

Like a well oiled machine... Obama demands the money and Bernake falls right in line.

"Last week Bernanke said Congress should take further action to combat unemployment, calling it a “national crisis.”

Get ready for the Obama rhetoric and fear-mongering to kick into high-gear now that he has someone else to "validate" his demands.

I wonder if Buffet will announce that we need more "stimulus" too?

What a bunch of crooks.

  • 18 votes
#1.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:27 AM EDT

Congressman Wright Patman was Chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on
Banking and Currency for 40 years.

For 20 of those years, he introduced legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913. Congressman Henry Gonzales, Chairman of a banking committee, introduces legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913 nearly every year.

It's always defeated, the media remains silent, and the public never learns the truth. The same bankers who own the FED control the media and give huge political contributions to sympathetic members of Congress.

THE FED FEARS THE POPULATION WILL BECOME AWARE OF THIS FRAUD AND DEMAND CHANGE.
We, the People, are at fault for being passive and allowing this to continue.
the printing of our money, and our debt .

"The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed and the Federal Reserve banks,
having violated their charters, should be liquidated immediately.
FAITHLESS GOVERNMENT OFFICERS WHO HAVE VIOLATED THEIR OATHS SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND BROUGHT TO TRIAL", Rep. Louis T.McFadden

  • 16 votes
#1.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT

I personally find it disgusting that the Obama Administration has done NOTHING to punish or control the treasonous bankers, wall street criminals, and "Fed" board who brought on the crash of our economy in 2008.

These criminals were instead rewarded with borrowed money from the tax paying public.

Obama has kept the same wall street RATS that infested the Bush "administration" in the white house to continue robbing the public. Time to dump Obama.

  • 11 votes
#1.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:42 AM EDT

I guess stupidity is infecting everyone here. Bernanke is apparently the only one who reads history in America. The Right would have us believe that repeating the mistakes of the world of the 1930s will work out differently this time. Yeah, let's cut spending, focus on the deficit, and ignore the need for special job projects. Works every time . . . if you want a deep depression. Fools. Time for people with an actual understanding of the issues to ignore the right wing idiocy. That includes thoughtful Republicans who love America more than the Tea Bigots, Norquist and others who know nothing but their own propaganda.

. . . and the treasonous bankers and their allies in the Republican Party? They will never allow the required regulations. Get a clue. Voting in Republicans and Tea Bigots has only empowered a right wing Supreme Court who have created USA,inc. You really want more of that?

  • 12 votes
#1.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:14 PM EDT

You guys are sooooo far off it isn't funny.

The stimulus worked, look at the 3rd chart. It got the GDP growing and started to bring jobs back.

Bernanke is right, drastic cuts in spending will bring back recession. What didn't you guys learn from the depression. FDR had the recovery going until the Republicans insisted on budget cuts and we were in depression for 10 years.

http://www.nationofchange.org/three-charts-email-your-right-wing-brother-law-1314715523

  • 8 votes
#1.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:16 PM EDT

It’s kind of amazing that they still insist there’s a recovery in progress. There has never been any recovery and this is demonstrated every day via various reports and statistics. Look for them to continue to insist there’s a recovery going on, especially when the unemployment rate takes the usual dip due to temporary holiday hiring.

As always, Obama and his cronies will continue their pattern of blaming others for their failures because they have nothing else.

  • 10 votes
#1.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:17 PM EDT

Even though I can agree with Close the Fed over the case of closing the fed (which is a privaltly run banking cartel - not a federal institution) I wonder why he / she feels its compeletely Obama's fault. The Fed reserve has been around since 1913 and there have been many presidents and congresses since that time. The culprit is ourselves for putting up with it. 10% of the population owns over 80% of the wealth in this country (1% of people own nearly half of the wealth). That is why 47% of people don't pay federal income taxes - they don't have any money!!!! They pay a rich person tax by working minimum wage paying jobs - that only serve to make the rich richer. They are fleeced by high interest rates and payday loan companies, credit card companies, banks, etc., etc.

Why the GOP opposes a consumer protection agency and one of their own's idea of a fed reserve audit is beyond me. Business as usual? Not for much longer. The giant is waking up.

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:19 PM EDT

With a man Bernanke) who has served fithfully,many administrations, in many financial capacities, right on time...the tee-baggers and disciples vote with their ideology and trash the messenger with all their key words.

Please take note! The GOP/Tee-Baggers have had control of the House now for eight months and have not produced even ONE job bill! Why? Because all of they have is their ideologies. They have NO ideas!

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:21 PM EDT

Part of the Problem is.........No Jobs.

How many items have you bought lately that's "Made in China"?

(Walmart is China's largest customer)..or at least it was recently...

We have lost almost all our manufacturing here in USA

Coorporations searching for cheap labor... now manufacture so many items oversea's, yet they expect the american people to have jobs and incomes to purchase their products?..Well?..its hard to do on mininum wages (if in fact we have jobs at all?)

  • 6 votes
#1.9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:25 PM EDT

Didn't read the charts did you Wet Willy? Why has GDP grown each and every quarter since Obama was elected?

Please explain why the economy has grown under Obama and shrank under Bush.

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:30 PM EDT

I know one thing is for sure. The products we sell everyday at my company, as a material supplier for the construction industry, are at its lowest value in our company history due to maximum inventory and difficult to deliver even on good days because truckers have been laid off which would normally deliver our products. Our economy is still bleeding out and some people think there is a recovery.

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:03 PM EDT

Well Eric, I suppose you won’t let anything into your brain that conflicts with your view of the world since Ideology has a way of crippling brains thusly. It’s amusing how you allude to some charts claiming a growing economy on the same day when Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke espouses dire warnings about the faltering economy. Oh well, as long as you’re happy in your own little fantasy world.

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:06 PM EDT

Hey Wet Willy ....

What about your ideology? might that be part of your own fantasy world?

How bout coming up with solutions or discussing the real problems rather than blame ideology from anyone else?

Or could it be that you are just the pot calling the kettle black?

Tell me what your solution would be, without using anything from either political parties rhetoric.

Please....?

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 5:20 PM EDT

Bill-Austin:

I am with you on this one. Our government has this habit of giving anything remotely related to disaster and naming it. Remember all the colors for supposed terrorist attacks? Created to scare the heck out of Americans. Then we had Desert Storm and Weapons Of Mass Destruction. Now they want to pronounce this "new down turn" in the economy as a recession. For the past nine years, I have been experiencing a DPRESSION. That also includes the way I feel about the depression. No matter how the government paints the picture, the majority of the middle class, has not been able to keep their head above water.

Not all of these people are "dead beats" as the Tea Party led Republicans would have you believe. Instead of cutting programs and reigning in spending, the United States nned to start spending money to promote jobs. We need to invest in re-educating and training are citizens. Instead of wasting money on mediocre plans the GOP are attempting to push on Americans, they need to let go of the purse strings and get America back to work. I am so tired of Eric Cantor and John Boehner protecting the wealthy at the expense of the middle class, I will campaign to get them out of office.

The division between the two partys is causing our country, to become something one would expect from a third world. Our educational system , economy, infrastructure, housing , you name it, is all going into the dumpster.

It is easy to blame President Obama for all the upheaval but he was not even running for president when I felt the sting of the "recession."

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 5:38 PM EDT

Bill-Austin. I agree with you but before we do the right thing, we will need to do the wrong thing because for most uniformed people, the "wrong" thing is easier to understand. In some respect, the sooner we do the "wrong" thing the easier it will be to do the right thing. As that great economists, Bette Davis, said: Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy night!".

  • 1 vote
#1.15 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 8:35 PM EDT

And what recovery would that be?? Oh lets print another trillion and call it a windfall. Why don't you just print money and send a trillion to every country on the planet to bail them out because you are not doing anything to help AMERICA.

    #1.16 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:45 PM EDT

    Egilman 1.13

    While everyone has an ideology to some degree, I don’t allow mine to delude me into any particular mantra, as Eric obviously does, and possibly you as well. While I certainly have my own ideas as to what needs to be done, I’m not proposing any solutions as it ain’t my job and being just an ordinary American, any solutions proposed by me, however reasonable will be meaningless, an exercise in futility.

    Finally, if you ever discover someone proposing a solution to our problems that is completely devoid of any political rhetoric, let me know, as that would indeed be something to see.

    Not in our lifetime, pal.

    • 1 vote
    #1.17 - Wed Oct 5, 2011 11:23 AM EDT
    Reply

    Obama is no longer a "sure thing" on Nov. 6th, 2012 and he knows it by now admitting he is the "underdog" and just yesterday!! Just when you think things could NOT get worse!.......IT DOES!!!!! Hope and Change???? Yeah right!

    • 17 votes
    Reply#2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:18 AM EDT

    He could do like Bush/Cheney and make something up! I know honesty must be puzzling to you.

    • 3 votes
    #2.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:22 PM EDT

    Keep dreaming !!! Yes, Obama is managing expectations and people like the underdog.

    If you think that the policies of "starving the beast" are going to make the economy better you're wrong.

    • 3 votes
    #2.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:24 PM EDT

    IReckon spreading poison as usual... Don't you have a life or did Obama take that from you a well.

    • 4 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:48 PM EDT

    Underdog = Political failure

      #2.4 - Wed Oct 5, 2011 12:30 AM EDT
      Reply

      Sounds like common sense testimony. I think that the troubles in Europe, as well as their implications, are not fully being considered. Right now, I think that the Euro crisis is probably the biggest threat to our economy.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:18 AM EDT

      This "Euro crisis" has been looming for more than 6 months now.....the media treats it like a "fresh event" once a month!................Nothing has changed in Greece for over a year already...other than it is still getting bailouts and it is only getting worse!

      • 8 votes
      #3.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:24 AM EDT

      Once a month - more like once a day! It's exhausting.

      • 2 votes
      #3.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:47 AM EDT

      'The euro crisis is the biggest threat to our economy'....

      That is EXACTLY what is wrong with this global 'we're all one' BS and what's wrong with having the illegal Fed Reserve. See my post #9 below.

        #3.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:31 AM EDT

        I think they are still underestimating the effect of the "Euro crisis", similar to the first few months of the sub-prime market collapse. Hopefully I'm wrong...

          #3.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:43 AM EDT

          Obama, his administration, et el. are positioning themselves for more of their famous blame game. Now the new scapegoat will be Greece, instead of admitting to their utter ignorance and failed policies. The best Obama, Biden, Pelosi, the Fed guy and the rest can do for this country is to not wait for the elections, but to step down and let someone at the helm that actually knows what they're doing.

          • 3 votes
          #3.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:51 AM EDT

          Dave-1384240 "I think that the Euro crisis is probably the biggest threat to our economy."

          Thank you Dave, well said.

          I agree. People don't understand the extent our "Fed" is tied to the same European banks that hold the purse strings to Greece. The "Fed" is NOT part of our government and is NOT a "Reserve". It is a private, solely for profit, banking cartel. Period!

          Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks,
          a very well kept secret, has been revealed:

          Rothschild Bank of London
          Warburg Bank of Hamburg
          Rothschild Bank of Berlin
          Lehman Brothers of New York
          Lazard Brothers of Paris
          Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
          Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
          Goldman, Sachs of New York
          Warburg Bank of Amsterdam
          Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

          Close the "FED", prosecute or deport all "FED" board members.

          • 9 votes
          #3.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:55 AM EDT

          Obama, his administration, et el. are positioning themselves for more of their famous blame game. Now the new scapegoat will be Greece, instead of admitting to their utter ignorance and failed policies. The best Obama, Biden, Pelosi, the Fed guy and the rest can do for this country is to not wait for the elections, but to step down and let someone at the helm that actually knows what they're doing.

          You are correct, but it's important to note that Obama's policies are nothing more than a continuation of geroge bushes policies. There was no change. Stimulous still wwent forward, TARP went forward, the bailouts went forward and unemployement extensions went forward.

          None of those policies do anything more than prolong the pain of what will eventually be seen as a full blown depression, unfortunately, instead of 3 or 4 years of pain we'll endure this pain until the government stops playing around with the economy..

          • 1 vote
          #3.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:02 PM EDT

          Close-The -Fed,

          You've been watching Fox again haven't you. Close the fed and we would survive financially about ten days. The world is no longer flat... it is a world economy. USA no longer exist alone like it did in 1776. I have five neighbors who travel to China monthly. The stocks are tanking because of Greece. We are all tied together... like it or not.. that is the real world...not the make believe world of Fox.

          • 3 votes
          #3.8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT

          We live in a global economy, of course what happens in Greece effects the US. In fact, Europe is looking to adopt something like the fed to help stabalize the euro.

          You guys really need to read more.

          • 3 votes
          #3.9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT

          @ NC-BOZO You've been watching Fox again haven't you.

          Wrong Bozo, I despise "Faux News" and the narrow minded, easily swayed people that support it.

          Try saying something relevant or intelligent Bozo. If not, just keep your opinion/narrow minded judgements to yourself.

          Try disputing even one thing I have posted here as not being fact.

          Close the "Fed" and this once great country would start to prosper again. You seem to be happy we are heading fast toward a corrupt, third world, bankrupt status. Nice job Bozo!

          We are tied to Greece because the same central European banks OWN the corrupt "Federal Reserve".

          Wake up! Thanks and best regards.

          (P.S. 1776 has NOTHING to do with it. The "Fed" was in-acted in 1913 through dirty politics!)

          • 1 vote
          #3.10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:15 PM EDT

          HOW DID THE "FED" BECOME THE CANCEROUS PARASITE ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THAT IT IS?

          ___________________________________________________________

          After previous attempts to push the Federal Reserve Act through Congress, a group of
          bankers funded and staffed Woodrow Wilson's campaign for President. He had committed to
          sign this act. In 1913, a Senator, Nelson Aldrich, maternal grandfather to the Rockefellers,
          pushed the Federal Reserve Act through Congress just before Christmas when much of Congress
          was on vacation .

          When elected, Wilson passed the FED.

          ____________________________________________________________________

          Later, Wilson remorsefully replied (referring to the FED), "I have unwittingly ruined my
          country"

          • 2 votes
          #3.11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:18 PM EDT

          Why is this a problem does greece send anything to the US but a few olives and peppers for my pizza?? I am sorry that you do not have any real industrial complex but don't hold the World hostage for your short work week and labour party extortion monies.

            #3.12 - Wed Oct 5, 2011 12:34 AM EDT
            Reply

            Why is Bernanke taking about the nation's job outlook? What does the Fed chairman have to do with future job growth? This story is the epitome of what is wrong today ... the fed has tweaked and screwed around with American/global economics and the cash supply for far too long and in places they have no business in and has put us in a deeper into hole we can no longer dig our way out of.

            This sounds like a talk Obama should be giving ... and an apology from Obama would be forthcoming too if he could only be honest with himself and the nation he "rules" over.

            • 9 votes
            Reply#4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:27 AM EDT

            STexas, you wish, and your information is incorrect.

            The fed has helped to stabilize the economy not make it worse. Republicans don't like the fed stabilizing the economy, because they need a bad economy to get the Presidency back.

            We are not in a deeper hole unless the "starving the beast" republicans get back the presidency.

            • 3 votes
            #4.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:28 PM EDT

            If this is "stabilized", then I'll take UN-stabilized" with 7% unemployment, any day. Do you realize how deluded you sound, Eric? Put down the Obama Kool-Aid and walk away, it's really just that easy.

            • 1 vote
            #4.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 5:09 PM EDT
            Reply

            Thanks, Ben. Somebody needs to put a muzzle on him. Every time he opens his mouth, the market loses 250+ points.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:41 AM EDT

            Ben Bernanke, Domestic Terrorist.

            Doing a better job than anyone else is at ruining the country.

            • 6 votes
            #5.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:24 AM EDT

            Second only to the Koch brothers. Recall this headline from yesterday, "Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales." Someone in here predicted the story would be buried in a day, and it was.

            Koch Industries sold millions of dollars of petrochemical equipment to Iran, although the U.S. calls it a sponsor of global terrorism.

            Koch Industries has rigged prices with competitors, lied to regulators and repeatedly flouted environmental regulations, resulting in five criminal convictions since 1999 in the U.S. and Canada.

            In December 1999, a civil jury found that Koch Industries had taken oil it didn't pay for from federal land by mismeasuring the amount of crude it was extracting. They stole a couple million gallons of crude oil from America! Koch paid a $25 million settlement to the U.S.

            From 1999 through 2003, Koch Industries was assessed more than $400 million in fines, penalties and judgments. But what's a few hundred million when you're worth $100 billion?

            In 1999, a Texas jury imposed a $296 million verdict on a Koch pipeline unit -- the largest compensatory damages judgment in a wrongful death case against a corporation in U.S. history. The jury found that the company's negligence had led to a butane pipeline rupture that fueled an explosion that killed two teenagers.

            Why can't the Fed shut them down? Because they're more powerful.

              #5.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:12 PM EDT
              Reply

              Because the FED has been given a two fold job. . .employment and keep inflation under control.  Sometimes the two are in complete contridiction to each other.  Personally I think the FED (if we should even have such a corrupt organization) should focus totally on inflation. . .that is only my opinion.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:48 AM EDT

              "the likelihood of more sluggish job growth" ahead for the U.S. DUH YA THINK?

              • 2 votes
              Reply#7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:23 AM EDT

              "The recovery is close to faltering," Bernanke told lawmakers. WHAT RECOVERY you moron?

              • 5 votes
              Reply#8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:24 AM EDT

              The only morons in the room are those who do not understand the actual definition of a recession. If you have consistent GDP growth, even though it is anemic, you are not in a recession.

              • 1 vote
              #8.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:26 AM EDT

              Peter tell that to the 6M+ American out of work and the scores more under and part time employed!

              • 6 votes
              #8.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:48 AM EDT

              GPD is consumption plus investment plus government spending.. Take away government spending and we are in a depression let alone a recession with it. Peter 17..Only morons think that manipulated GDP is is not a recession. that's all that game is about.

              • 1 vote
              #8.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:37 PM EDT
              Reply

              Buttcranke's worthless, as is the Fed Reserve.

              Of course they know what's coming up or down the pike; since 1913, they've slowly but surely taken over... not just America but globally, as all saw this coming since WWI. It was only a matter of time before international travel was economically and physically a common reality.

              This entity needs to be done away with. Those that want it and believe in it can go to whatever country it ends up in, or mourn it's loss when done away with, but America will NEVER PROSPER AGAIN as long as it exists.

              The Fed lives off of us, feeds off us and is KILLING us. America needs an American based economy; we need an American financial institution NOT some bastardized global monetary chiefster that dictates what country wins and loses, whom makes money when and where, and promotes global competition based upon 3rd world wage earners making all nations, even the once Great America, into 3rd world economies.

              THIS is why we now have corporo-governmentism and NOT any real American Representation in Clowngress.... no Red, no Blue, neither end of the Donkephant has America first and foremost but is sold out corporate (use which ever expletive you wish to here).

              They act as if the global economy farce is an inevitability and people ACTUALLY buy into it!

              They believe that yes, the new norm is to consume and not produce unless you can do it for pennies a day as they do in China, India, et al... . Yet, Americans are supposed to pay American prices for all the do, use, own and consume.

              Use logic and common sense.... it's IMPOSSIBLE!

              Why would ANYONE want America's well being and status based upon what the lowest wage bidders well being and status is? Nike is just one of thousands of excellent examples of this; it's one of the highest profile American status symbols, yet has almost ALLLLLLLL of it's manufacturing done overseas and/or out of American borders.

              WAKE UP!!!!

              The Illegal Fed is usurping any nation that has prospered wealth to the corporo's and their cronies (any western nation's government) investors internationally. This lifts China and it's like while suppressing and strangling nations such as America.

              America first and foremost; I DON'T WANT AN ENTITY THAT DOES NOT.... REPEAT DOES NOT... HAVE AMERICA'S INTERESTS AND WELL BEING PUT FIRST AND FOREMOST RUNNING AMERICA.

              That's common sense, isn't it? Don't all Americans want America to come first, to be taken care of financially by America and NOT some illegal entity that puts BIG MONEY INTERNATIONAL interests first?

              • 2 votes
              Reply#9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:25 AM EDT

              You and most others would not pay the much higher prices for Nike shoes if they were made in this country so we could pay workers $10 per hour to make them. And since we are only 4.5% of the world's population and there is another 95.5% to sell to, all the manufacturing needed to sell to those 95.5% must be outside the U.S. as we could never make them here and export them. Labor intensive manufacturing will NEVER be a major component of our economic future. It is time to face the facts.

                #9.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:28 AM EDT

                You couldn't pay a higher price for Nikes; they're way over the top already. Labor costs? To make a profit, Nike could pay American workers $15 and hour and still make hefty profits.

                300 million in America, and another 95.5% to sell to? Start by making American products for the 300 mill plus Americans, then worry about selling to the othe 95%.

                Worried about exporting when so many are out of work, and we're IMPORTING from those our jobs have been sold out to?

                Even if America made and consumed what it used and counted as negligable any exporting, America would be once again employed and financially strong, sound..... American wages for American lifestyles and American prices.

                If someone can't afford to buy American Made because they live in Guatamala, then so be it. The ONLY reason the Middle Class, Labor, Manufacturing is gone from the US is because the Illegal Fed saw fit to redistribute wealth built on American Capitalism to sold out government corporotism internationally to those with the big $$'s.

                America first and foremost. You just simply can't have every nation dependent on every other nation and expect YOUR nation to do well.... as soon as it starts to, it will be redistributed again.

                I, for one, have not and WILL not sign on for America becoming.... I don't even know what to call it, actually; what, just....... Earth? All economies are one, so no more America, just Earth?

                Then, fine... instead of paying American prices, I want to pay what they do in China or India or Mexico. Same with interest rates, same with medical costs. Auotos, homes, the whole enchillada. If the Fed can pick and choose, along with our sold out 535, what nations get what jobs due to the lowest bidder, then I want to choose along the same lines.

                Or, doesn't it work that way?.......

                And, if any of you would say I'm free to as long as I pay tariffs, shipping, etc... then where are THEIR tariffs? Oh, yeah... forgot NAFTA. Legislate towards American businesses remaining in America, 75% or more employment here hefty tax breaks... anything less, MAJOR tariffs and no tax breaks. It's in our legislatures control.

                Then, you'd see just how many American made products through Real American Capitalistic principles we could all afford, especially since we'd be working.

                • 2 votes
                #9.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:45 AM EDT

                Our future lies in developing a stronger export sector. Our population is growing at the lowest rate in history. The 2010 Census showed that from 2000-2010 the 45 and older group in the U.S. grew 25.6% while the under 45 year old group grew a mere 1.4%. That means the end of the strong consumer based economy we've know over the passed 30 years as the baby boomers married, had children and spent. They are now retiring and their big spending days are over. There is no big group behind them to take over.

                • 2 votes
                #9.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:52 AM EDT

                Peter17 : You accidentally hit upon the problem with your belief set.

                "You and most others would not pay the much higher prices for Nike shoes if they were made in this country so we could pay workers $10 per hour to make them."

                Before the jobs were exported a NIKE running shoe cost what? $100.00 ? And what does it cost today?? See a huge savings? No, you do not. What you see, is huge corporate profits due to excellent advertising and foreign indentured servitude wages and working environment .

                But , if you have your way, we'll be equal to the chinese soon, on many fronts.

                But hey, If the Chinese make you money , you love them. Let's call Americans socialists while profiting and empowering COMMUNISTS.

                  #9.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 9:12 PM EDT
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                  Has anyone paid attention to how the dollar has strengthened over the past 2 weeks as the Euro goes farther over the cliff. How oil has similarly pulled back to under $78 a barrel today, how gas prices at the pump have dropped, how the performance of our automakers and other US corporations exceeds expectations. How August and September were actually pretty good months now that we look back which really begs to ask what was really happening on Wall Street. We don't need to over heat this economy at this particular point in time and we certainly don't need to pump in more money to weaken the dollar as a short term prop for the Euro at the expense of US consumers because what happens as a result...the dollar retreats, oil climbs back up, banks take the free money and make risky investments, the market bubble builds back up and then another made up impending catastrophe bursts the bubble and the banks lose their trillions of free money which they have to pay back but they are too big to fail and then QE 4 and we keep prolonging any meaningful recovery and this insane cycle continues.

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                  Reply#10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

                  Stan what happens on Wall Street DOES NOT transfer to reality on Main Street, and as Bernake mentioned it is not the time for draconian cuts. Put America back to work (10-15 Million jobs) and all this made-up (yes made up, completely hyped speculation, the sky is falling BS) crap about debt, deficit, and the dollar will go away.

                    #10.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:04 PM EDT

                    Ron,

                    I agree Wall Street is completely disconnected from Main Street. But, the monetary policy activity that the Fed is engaged in only affects Wall Street and foreign markets and does not create jobs outside of the financial sector of the economy. I believe there is a stronger case that the increased cost of imports has a larger net effect on our economy than the increase in exports due to a cheap dollar. We don't export that much in price sensitive commodities these days and our technology products sold overseas are manufactured overseas in the markets they are sold in anyway. And I agree Jobs will help but I have not heard anyone promise 10-15 million in new jobs based on any action the federal reserve or federal government can or will do.

                      #10.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 5:44 PM EDT
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                      CLOSE TO FALTERING?Holy Crap I thought it FALTERED A LONG TIME AGO!

                      Hey Berstanky,GET LOST!

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                      Reply#11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT

                      You said it all!

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                      #11.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:49 AM EDT
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                      Job growth is slow because banks still aren't lending.

                      Lending is still low because unemployment is still high.

                      Unemployment is still high because businesses still think with their bottom lines.

                      Business as usual produces Results as usual.

                      Obviously we must like the results we get, because we keep doing what we've done.

                      It is the very definition of Insanity to keep doing the same thing, expecting different results.

                        Reply#12 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:12 PM EDT

                        That is why we need to get rid of Obama and the rest of his crew in 2012.

                          #12.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT

                          And do what Peter...elect Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, ...classic case of insanity. Need a pillow and a blankey with your padded cell walls?

                            #12.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:59 PM EDT

                            Well played, Ron in Seattle.

                            But at the very least, if we were stupid enough to put a Moron, err.. Morman in the Big Chair, at least he'd have a viable excuse for sticking it everything that moves - morman polygamy.

                              #12.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

                              Unemployment is high because we don't make anything. How long do you expect the service industry to carry the economy? We keep shipping what little wealth we have over to China with every new game console, cell phone or computer that we buy and wonder where the money went....

                              Our job loss is in step with our exportation of American dollars to foreign countries. Between NAFTA and China having the MFN status we can't compete to save our lives.

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                              #12.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:12 PM EDT
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                                Reply#13 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:17 PM EDT

                                Profund wet willy. . . .

                                  #13.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT
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                                  Amen to that, sir. The sheeple don't have a clue. You nailed it!

                                    Reply#14 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT

                                    Why its taking so long to sink in is a mystery to me. The cheap oil is gone. The rest will be harder and riskier to get at, hence, more expensive. NO alternatives will ever replace oil. Cheap energy over= economic growth over. No economic growth= gradual (if we are very lucky) collapse of global economy. This is not rocket science. We may experience a "bumpy plateau" for a while, as economy falters price of oil goes down, when it gets to a certain price point the economy will pick up briefly, but as soon as it does the price of oil rises and the cycle starts again.

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                                    Reply#15 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT

                                    Kate - not so. We are awash in oil and natural gas reserves. We have close to a 200 year supply of both in this country. Some may be offshore, but much of it is available at a relatively cheap price. It is the Environmental Lobby who have prevent access to those resources because continued cheap oil would prevent alternative energy sources from being competitive.

                                    Should you doubt this, you might check out the Green River Formation in parts of Wyoming, Colorado and Utah, most of it on federal land. That shale oil can be retrieved by heating the rock deep underground, no mining or earth moving involved. The conservative estimate of just how much oil could be recovered from that one area is three times the reserves of Saudi Arabia.

                                      Reply#16 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:29 PM EDT

                                      Peter, the 200 year number is not the number to supply the US with 100% (no report I've been able to find that is credible) of our needs and it wouldn't be any cheaper as oil is a comodity and price is set globally.

                                        #16.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:46 PM EDT

                                        Peter17

                                        I usually ignore you because you're even too far right for me but I can't abide mis-information of that magnitude. Proven world reserve estimates by the EIA are about 1,300 billion barrels, that's 9 zeros in billion, daily world consumption is about 86 million barrels per day. The arithmatic says 41 years, more or less. Shale oil is not net positive energy recoverable.

                                          #16.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 5:09 PM EDT

                                          I can't say how much of it is true but unless you can cite your sources, Brian, you have nothing to dispute here:

                                          http://www.eltonresearch.com/oiltechincutah.page?cart=119

                                            #16.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:19 PM EDT
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                                            What recovery? The imaginary one in the heads of the government and banking industry? from where I am standing it never ended, just ask all the millions of un-counted un-employed, the government is blowing smoke up our you know whats,,,, and as far as I am concerned, they can go to you know where!

                                              Reply#17 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:34 PM EDT

                                              What recovery, he has failed, obama has failed, why is this news. No one is suprised.

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                                              Reply#18 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:37 PM EDT

                                              because they are not reporting the real news.

                                              the real news is on occupywallstreet.com

                                                #18.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:14 PM EDT

                                                Nice plug.

                                                No one is paying attention, that's all they want. Seen the interviews, they don't even know what they are there for. Nice try, though.

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                                                #18.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:06 PM EDT
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                                                The Republicans are systematically reversing all of the gains made since March 2009 in order to win the 2012 at all costs. Since they took office in January and obstructed everything from then on, the market is down about 20% from its April 2009 highs, unemployment is back up from a low of 8.9% to now 9. 5%, US debt rating has been cut, no Federal budget has been passed for the Oct.1, 2011 to September 30th, 2012 Federal Fiscal year, the SEC has not finalized rules for Dodd-Frank, money for Wall Street oversight has been gutted, the Volcker rule watered down, and there is talk of bailing out Bank America and Morgan Stanley. The Republicans will gladly oversee a DEPRESSION in the USA if they can oust Obama and Pelosi. And if there was a Republican President, the Democrats would be doing the same thing. We need to abolish the Republican and Democratic parties, who take turns gorging themselves at the public money trough! That's all that matters to them. Abolish Congress in favor of direct, electronic votes by the people.

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                                                Reply#19 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:37 PM EDT

                                                Correction - I meant to say that the market is down about 20% from its April 2011 highs

                                                  #19.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:42 PM EDT

                                                  Mike one of the most sensible statements I have read here today.

                                                  The Republicans will gladly oversee a DEPRESSION in the USA if they can oust Obama and Pelosi. And if there was a Republican President, the Democrats would be doing the same thing. We need to abolish the Republican and Democratic parties, who take turns gorging themselves at the public money trough! That's all that matters to them. Abolish Congress in favor of direct, electronic votes by the people.

                                                  The fact we keep playing the same game and expecting different results is astounding. This is why the rest of the world winks at America,...as we are just plain stupid. Let's see you don't like Obama so you vote against your own interests. When that party is in power they screw you royally and you go whining into the night. STOP playing peep-eye behind the cereal box. Start asking your candidates HOW not what they will do if elected. FACT CHECK THEM. Make informed decisions, and stop spouting talking points. Then and only then can we begin to reform our nation.

                                                  To add we need to change the legislative process as well as reform how and why representatives are elected. We must abolish the Supreme Court ruling that opens the floodgates to all the WHORES in congress, and get rid of the arcane counter-productive fillibuster rules of the Senate. This crap was extablished to ensure a party remains in control and little to do with benefitting a nation.

                                                    #19.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:25 PM EDT
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                                                    Just want to thank the teabaggers for holding our economy hostage for months and introducing fear and anxiety into the world economies. And for no apparent gain, other than to get themselves on tv. These people have no clue as to the ramifications of their small minded actions. Do we really want this renegade band of fools running this country further into the ground? I think not.

                                                      Reply#20 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:37 PM EDT

                                                      It is the incompetent one in the Oval Office who introduced "fear and anxiety into the world economies".

                                                        #20.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:45 PM EDT

                                                        Ah yes, The Tea Party. The new boogie man of the left. They blame everything going on today on them but if it weren't for the 2010 election they'd still be blaming Bush with screams of "It takes years for policies to change the economy, that's why Obama's plans haven't come to fruition yet! Just give him 4 more years and you'll see his plan come together!"

                                                        Not that both parties don't play this game but it is getting old... It's time to put both parties on their heads and move on.

                                                          #20.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:25 PM EDT
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                                                          Note to Bernanke: THERE NEVER WAS A RECOVERY! This is the problem when effing idiots are at the helm.

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                                                          Reply#21 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:39 PM EDT

                                                          Thank God you're not one them huh...?

                                                          Obama Lies

                                                          Note to Bernanke: THERE NEVER WAS A RECOVERY! This is the problem when effing idiots are at the helm

                                                            #21.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:37 PM EDT
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                                                            This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone; the Republicans have stated that the number ONE priority of the party is to have Obama a 1-term President and if jobs and he economy suffer on the way so be it.

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                                                            Reply#22 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:41 PM EDT

                                                            Care you quote with a legitimate cite? Didn't think so.

                                                              #22.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:25 PM EDT
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                                                              Anonymous Messages for Banksters, The Fed and Their Puppets in Congress:

                                                                Reply#23 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:44 PM EDT

                                                                Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told lawmakers Tuesday that the economic recovery is close to faltering

                                                                ^Well look who woke up falling off the bar stool.

                                                                  Reply#24 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:45 PM EDT

                                                                  Google this: "Anonymous Messages for Banksters, The Fed and Their Puppets in Congress"

                                                                    Reply#25 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:45 PM EDT
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